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How does the UK government determine the size of a mandate?


Is the European Union perceived as privileging certain countries?Why is the EU wishing to punish the UK instead of listening their detractors and seeking dialogue?Brexit: leaving Customs Union and/or Single Market — what do these things really mean?Was Brexit always going to include a withdrawal from the European Atomic Energy CommunityDoes the pre-election UK government have the authority to start Brexit talks before a new government is formed?Are there precedents for the EU fining the UK for undervalued Chinese imports?What's the point in holding a second Brexit referendum?Did the EU Referendum Act 2015 mandate “the leaflet”?Why do UK citizens feel “that only the British (and perhaps the Swiss) are properly democratic”?How does a minority motion in the House of Commons take priority over Government business?













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The Department for Exiting the EU has said in response to the petition to revoke Article 50 that :




“17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing
the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed
at UK government,”




How was the size of the mandate determined?










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    That was the number of people who voted Leave in the EU referendum. Is that what you were asking?

    – Alex
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    If you win, your mandate is overwhelming. If you lose, the opposition has a marginal mandate.

    – Jontia
    17 hours ago






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    @Alex - if that's what they mean, yes. I was wondering if there was a cleverer determination taking into account opposition (for example 17.4 - 16.1 = 1.3) or electorate size rather than a simple absolute number. Glorfindel's answer is pretty much the detail I was hoping for, but I'll hold off accepting it as the best for a day or so to encourage other answers.

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    16 hours ago






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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about language not politics.

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    @gerrit - I think the way governments use language is very much about politics, and there are some great questions on SE Politics about what politicians might have meant - including your Reagan question of Oct 25 '17.

    – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
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The Department for Exiting the EU has said in response to the petition to revoke Article 50 that :




“17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing
the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed
at UK government,”




How was the size of the mandate determined?










share|improve this question

















  • 3





    That was the number of people who voted Leave in the EU referendum. Is that what you were asking?

    – Alex
    17 hours ago






  • 14





    If you win, your mandate is overwhelming. If you lose, the opposition has a marginal mandate.

    – Jontia
    17 hours ago






  • 1





    @Alex - if that's what they mean, yes. I was wondering if there was a cleverer determination taking into account opposition (for example 17.4 - 16.1 = 1.3) or electorate size rather than a simple absolute number. Glorfindel's answer is pretty much the detail I was hoping for, but I'll hold off accepting it as the best for a day or so to encourage other answers.

    – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
    16 hours ago






  • 2





    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about language not politics.

    – gerrit
    15 hours ago






  • 6





    @gerrit - I think the way governments use language is very much about politics, and there are some great questions on SE Politics about what politicians might have meant - including your Reagan question of Oct 25 '17.

    – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
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The Department for Exiting the EU has said in response to the petition to revoke Article 50 that :




“17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing
the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed
at UK government,”




How was the size of the mandate determined?










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The Department for Exiting the EU has said in response to the petition to revoke Article 50 that :




“17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing
the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed
at UK government,”




How was the size of the mandate determined?







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    That was the number of people who voted Leave in the EU referendum. Is that what you were asking?

    – Alex
    17 hours ago






  • 14





    If you win, your mandate is overwhelming. If you lose, the opposition has a marginal mandate.

    – Jontia
    17 hours ago






  • 1





    @Alex - if that's what they mean, yes. I was wondering if there was a cleverer determination taking into account opposition (for example 17.4 - 16.1 = 1.3) or electorate size rather than a simple absolute number. Glorfindel's answer is pretty much the detail I was hoping for, but I'll hold off accepting it as the best for a day or so to encourage other answers.

    – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
    16 hours ago






  • 2





    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about language not politics.

    – gerrit
    15 hours ago






  • 6





    @gerrit - I think the way governments use language is very much about politics, and there are some great questions on SE Politics about what politicians might have meant - including your Reagan question of Oct 25 '17.

    – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
    14 hours ago












  • 3





    That was the number of people who voted Leave in the EU referendum. Is that what you were asking?

    – Alex
    17 hours ago






  • 14





    If you win, your mandate is overwhelming. If you lose, the opposition has a marginal mandate.

    – Jontia
    17 hours ago






  • 1





    @Alex - if that's what they mean, yes. I was wondering if there was a cleverer determination taking into account opposition (for example 17.4 - 16.1 = 1.3) or electorate size rather than a simple absolute number. Glorfindel's answer is pretty much the detail I was hoping for, but I'll hold off accepting it as the best for a day or so to encourage other answers.

    – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
    16 hours ago






  • 2





    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about language not politics.

    – gerrit
    15 hours ago






  • 6





    @gerrit - I think the way governments use language is very much about politics, and there are some great questions on SE Politics about what politicians might have meant - including your Reagan question of Oct 25 '17.

    – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
    14 hours ago







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That was the number of people who voted Leave in the EU referendum. Is that what you were asking?

– Alex
17 hours ago





That was the number of people who voted Leave in the EU referendum. Is that what you were asking?

– Alex
17 hours ago




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14





If you win, your mandate is overwhelming. If you lose, the opposition has a marginal mandate.

– Jontia
17 hours ago





If you win, your mandate is overwhelming. If you lose, the opposition has a marginal mandate.

– Jontia
17 hours ago




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1





@Alex - if that's what they mean, yes. I was wondering if there was a cleverer determination taking into account opposition (for example 17.4 - 16.1 = 1.3) or electorate size rather than a simple absolute number. Glorfindel's answer is pretty much the detail I was hoping for, but I'll hold off accepting it as the best for a day or so to encourage other answers.

– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
16 hours ago





@Alex - if that's what they mean, yes. I was wondering if there was a cleverer determination taking into account opposition (for example 17.4 - 16.1 = 1.3) or electorate size rather than a simple absolute number. Glorfindel's answer is pretty much the detail I was hoping for, but I'll hold off accepting it as the best for a day or so to encourage other answers.

– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
16 hours ago




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I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about language not politics.

– gerrit
15 hours ago





I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about language not politics.

– gerrit
15 hours ago




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6





@gerrit - I think the way governments use language is very much about politics, and there are some great questions on SE Politics about what politicians might have meant - including your Reagan question of Oct 25 '17.

– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
14 hours ago





@gerrit - I think the way governments use language is very much about politics, and there are some great questions on SE Politics about what politicians might have meant - including your Reagan question of Oct 25 '17.

– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
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This sentence simply means that of all the three referenda ever held in the United Kingdom, the one about Brexit was the one with the most votes for a single option. Note that the 1975 referendum to join the EU had 17,378,581 people who voted 'Yes'/'Join', only about 30,000 less than the 17,410,742 who voted to 'Leave' in the last referendum. If you look at the relative results (compared to 40 million registered voters in 1975 vs. 51 million in 2016), it's arguably a smaller mandate; in 1975, 43% of the people who could vote voted 'Yes', while the Brexit mandate is only 34%.






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    By the number of people who voted for it (17.4 million).



    This referendum had one of the biggest ever turnouts of the electorate (72.2% of the eligible voters voted) and the Leave campaign won. As the turnout was so high, the winning side can be said to have a clear direction or mandate provided by the vote as to what action should be taken.






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      The mandate being clear would not only need a high turnout, but also a clear majority for something. As is blatantly obvious, while there was barely no majority for status quo, the rest is too splintered and gave far too many, sometimes impossible, and frequently clashing promises.

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    This sentence simply means that of all the three referenda ever held in the United Kingdom, the one about Brexit was the one with the most votes for a single option. Note that the 1975 referendum to join the EU had 17,378,581 people who voted 'Yes'/'Join', only about 30,000 less than the 17,410,742 who voted to 'Leave' in the last referendum. If you look at the relative results (compared to 40 million registered voters in 1975 vs. 51 million in 2016), it's arguably a smaller mandate; in 1975, 43% of the people who could vote voted 'Yes', while the Brexit mandate is only 34%.






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      This sentence simply means that of all the three referenda ever held in the United Kingdom, the one about Brexit was the one with the most votes for a single option. Note that the 1975 referendum to join the EU had 17,378,581 people who voted 'Yes'/'Join', only about 30,000 less than the 17,410,742 who voted to 'Leave' in the last referendum. If you look at the relative results (compared to 40 million registered voters in 1975 vs. 51 million in 2016), it's arguably a smaller mandate; in 1975, 43% of the people who could vote voted 'Yes', while the Brexit mandate is only 34%.






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        This sentence simply means that of all the three referenda ever held in the United Kingdom, the one about Brexit was the one with the most votes for a single option. Note that the 1975 referendum to join the EU had 17,378,581 people who voted 'Yes'/'Join', only about 30,000 less than the 17,410,742 who voted to 'Leave' in the last referendum. If you look at the relative results (compared to 40 million registered voters in 1975 vs. 51 million in 2016), it's arguably a smaller mandate; in 1975, 43% of the people who could vote voted 'Yes', while the Brexit mandate is only 34%.






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        This sentence simply means that of all the three referenda ever held in the United Kingdom, the one about Brexit was the one with the most votes for a single option. Note that the 1975 referendum to join the EU had 17,378,581 people who voted 'Yes'/'Join', only about 30,000 less than the 17,410,742 who voted to 'Leave' in the last referendum. If you look at the relative results (compared to 40 million registered voters in 1975 vs. 51 million in 2016), it's arguably a smaller mandate; in 1975, 43% of the people who could vote voted 'Yes', while the Brexit mandate is only 34%.







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            By the number of people who voted for it (17.4 million).



            This referendum had one of the biggest ever turnouts of the electorate (72.2% of the eligible voters voted) and the Leave campaign won. As the turnout was so high, the winning side can be said to have a clear direction or mandate provided by the vote as to what action should be taken.






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              The mandate being clear would not only need a high turnout, but also a clear majority for something. As is blatantly obvious, while there was barely no majority for status quo, the rest is too splintered and gave far too many, sometimes impossible, and frequently clashing promises.

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            By the number of people who voted for it (17.4 million).



            This referendum had one of the biggest ever turnouts of the electorate (72.2% of the eligible voters voted) and the Leave campaign won. As the turnout was so high, the winning side can be said to have a clear direction or mandate provided by the vote as to what action should be taken.






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              The mandate being clear would not only need a high turnout, but also a clear majority for something. As is blatantly obvious, while there was barely no majority for status quo, the rest is too splintered and gave far too many, sometimes impossible, and frequently clashing promises.

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            By the number of people who voted for it (17.4 million).



            This referendum had one of the biggest ever turnouts of the electorate (72.2% of the eligible voters voted) and the Leave campaign won. As the turnout was so high, the winning side can be said to have a clear direction or mandate provided by the vote as to what action should be taken.






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            By the number of people who voted for it (17.4 million).



            This referendum had one of the biggest ever turnouts of the electorate (72.2% of the eligible voters voted) and the Leave campaign won. As the turnout was so high, the winning side can be said to have a clear direction or mandate provided by the vote as to what action should be taken.







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              The mandate being clear would not only need a high turnout, but also a clear majority for something. As is blatantly obvious, while there was barely no majority for status quo, the rest is too splintered and gave far too many, sometimes impossible, and frequently clashing promises.

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              The mandate being clear would not only need a high turnout, but also a clear majority for something. As is blatantly obvious, while there was barely no majority for status quo, the rest is too splintered and gave far too many, sometimes impossible, and frequently clashing promises.

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            The mandate being clear would not only need a high turnout, but also a clear majority for something. As is blatantly obvious, while there was barely no majority for status quo, the rest is too splintered and gave far too many, sometimes impossible, and frequently clashing promises.

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