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          I'm not understanding your exact problem because you don't provide enough detail but maybe this helps:



          With rare exceptions, an IP subnet is mapped to a VLAN = broadcast domain = layer-2 network on a 1:1 basis.



          You can run multiple IP subnets inside a single VLAN but they need a router to communicate with each other. Most often this setup doesn't make too much sense.



          You can't run a single IP subnet across multiple VLANs though (without elaborate workarounds). Nodes in the same subnet expect to be able to talk to each other on a common layer-2 network = VLAN = broadcast domain.



          So, your "VLANs within a subnet" can only work when you've split that subnet into sub-subnets properly and set up the router as gateway in between. A router on a stick is a router forwarding between VLAN subinterfaces on a single physical interface. Each subinterface needs to connect to one of the desired VLANs, so the link needs to be a VLAN trunk on both the switch and the router side.






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            Just to amplify on Zac’s answer: you have one subnet per vlan and vice versa. At the CCNA level, you can ignore the rare exceptions. The router on a stick has an (sub)interface in each subnet. Therefore all VLANs must be trunked to the router.






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              In practice, it is always a good idea to have VLAN with its own subnet. However, you can split a subnet into multiple VLANs since it is only a test topology and you don't have to worry about the IP address management challenges.






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                I'm not understanding your exact problem because you don't provide enough detail but maybe this helps:



                With rare exceptions, an IP subnet is mapped to a VLAN = broadcast domain = layer-2 network on a 1:1 basis.



                You can run multiple IP subnets inside a single VLAN but they need a router to communicate with each other. Most often this setup doesn't make too much sense.



                You can't run a single IP subnet across multiple VLANs though (without elaborate workarounds). Nodes in the same subnet expect to be able to talk to each other on a common layer-2 network = VLAN = broadcast domain.



                So, your "VLANs within a subnet" can only work when you've split that subnet into sub-subnets properly and set up the router as gateway in between. A router on a stick is a router forwarding between VLAN subinterfaces on a single physical interface. Each subinterface needs to connect to one of the desired VLANs, so the link needs to be a VLAN trunk on both the switch and the router side.






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                  I'm not understanding your exact problem because you don't provide enough detail but maybe this helps:



                  With rare exceptions, an IP subnet is mapped to a VLAN = broadcast domain = layer-2 network on a 1:1 basis.



                  You can run multiple IP subnets inside a single VLAN but they need a router to communicate with each other. Most often this setup doesn't make too much sense.



                  You can't run a single IP subnet across multiple VLANs though (without elaborate workarounds). Nodes in the same subnet expect to be able to talk to each other on a common layer-2 network = VLAN = broadcast domain.



                  So, your "VLANs within a subnet" can only work when you've split that subnet into sub-subnets properly and set up the router as gateway in between. A router on a stick is a router forwarding between VLAN subinterfaces on a single physical interface. Each subinterface needs to connect to one of the desired VLANs, so the link needs to be a VLAN trunk on both the switch and the router side.






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                    I'm not understanding your exact problem because you don't provide enough detail but maybe this helps:



                    With rare exceptions, an IP subnet is mapped to a VLAN = broadcast domain = layer-2 network on a 1:1 basis.



                    You can run multiple IP subnets inside a single VLAN but they need a router to communicate with each other. Most often this setup doesn't make too much sense.



                    You can't run a single IP subnet across multiple VLANs though (without elaborate workarounds). Nodes in the same subnet expect to be able to talk to each other on a common layer-2 network = VLAN = broadcast domain.



                    So, your "VLANs within a subnet" can only work when you've split that subnet into sub-subnets properly and set up the router as gateway in between. A router on a stick is a router forwarding between VLAN subinterfaces on a single physical interface. Each subinterface needs to connect to one of the desired VLANs, so the link needs to be a VLAN trunk on both the switch and the router side.






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                    I'm not understanding your exact problem because you don't provide enough detail but maybe this helps:



                    With rare exceptions, an IP subnet is mapped to a VLAN = broadcast domain = layer-2 network on a 1:1 basis.



                    You can run multiple IP subnets inside a single VLAN but they need a router to communicate with each other. Most often this setup doesn't make too much sense.



                    You can't run a single IP subnet across multiple VLANs though (without elaborate workarounds). Nodes in the same subnet expect to be able to talk to each other on a common layer-2 network = VLAN = broadcast domain.



                    So, your "VLANs within a subnet" can only work when you've split that subnet into sub-subnets properly and set up the router as gateway in between. A router on a stick is a router forwarding between VLAN subinterfaces on a single physical interface. Each subinterface needs to connect to one of the desired VLANs, so the link needs to be a VLAN trunk on both the switch and the router side.







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                        Just to amplify on Zac’s answer: you have one subnet per vlan and vice versa. At the CCNA level, you can ignore the rare exceptions. The router on a stick has an (sub)interface in each subnet. Therefore all VLANs must be trunked to the router.






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                          Just to amplify on Zac’s answer: you have one subnet per vlan and vice versa. At the CCNA level, you can ignore the rare exceptions. The router on a stick has an (sub)interface in each subnet. Therefore all VLANs must be trunked to the router.






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                            Just to amplify on Zac’s answer: you have one subnet per vlan and vice versa. At the CCNA level, you can ignore the rare exceptions. The router on a stick has an (sub)interface in each subnet. Therefore all VLANs must be trunked to the router.






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                            Just to amplify on Zac’s answer: you have one subnet per vlan and vice versa. At the CCNA level, you can ignore the rare exceptions. The router on a stick has an (sub)interface in each subnet. Therefore all VLANs must be trunked to the router.







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