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What about the virus in 12 Monkeys?


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Near the end of 12 Monkeys, the terrorist mad man OPENED one of the vials of virus at the screening, so wouldn't that have initiated the collapse of society anyway, by starting the death of all who were in the airport at that time, and wouldn't that have traveled everywhere those travelers were going?










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    It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.

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  • I think the answers are right, but I also think (from memory) that the people in the future never knew the vials were opened already. So they were fighting to prevent something that had already happened, only because they thought they could still stop it.

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 10:37











  • @Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.

    – Tom.Bowen89
    Apr 4 at 11:02











  • @Tom.Bowen89 doesn't Cole get shot while chasing the guy with the vials with a gun? Why was he doing that, if he wasn't trying to stop him? (My guess: the mission is not to stop him, but Cole tries to do so anyway. He fails, and even if he'd succeeded it wouldn't have helped, since the virus was already released. It's a bit of a bleak point to the end of the film. But if my memory is wrong you can correct me.)

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 14:58







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    this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 15:14
















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Near the end of 12 Monkeys, the terrorist mad man OPENED one of the vials of virus at the screening, so wouldn't that have initiated the collapse of society anyway, by starting the death of all who were in the airport at that time, and wouldn't that have traveled everywhere those travelers were going?










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    It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.

    – Acccumulation
    Apr 4 at 1:11











  • I think the answers are right, but I also think (from memory) that the people in the future never knew the vials were opened already. So they were fighting to prevent something that had already happened, only because they thought they could still stop it.

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 10:37











  • @Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.

    – Tom.Bowen89
    Apr 4 at 11:02











  • @Tom.Bowen89 doesn't Cole get shot while chasing the guy with the vials with a gun? Why was he doing that, if he wasn't trying to stop him? (My guess: the mission is not to stop him, but Cole tries to do so anyway. He fails, and even if he'd succeeded it wouldn't have helped, since the virus was already released. It's a bit of a bleak point to the end of the film. But if my memory is wrong you can correct me.)

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 14:58







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    this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 15:14














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Near the end of 12 Monkeys, the terrorist mad man OPENED one of the vials of virus at the screening, so wouldn't that have initiated the collapse of society anyway, by starting the death of all who were in the airport at that time, and wouldn't that have traveled everywhere those travelers were going?










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  • 6





    It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.

    – Acccumulation
    Apr 4 at 1:11











  • I think the answers are right, but I also think (from memory) that the people in the future never knew the vials were opened already. So they were fighting to prevent something that had already happened, only because they thought they could still stop it.

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 10:37











  • @Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.

    – Tom.Bowen89
    Apr 4 at 11:02











  • @Tom.Bowen89 doesn't Cole get shot while chasing the guy with the vials with a gun? Why was he doing that, if he wasn't trying to stop him? (My guess: the mission is not to stop him, but Cole tries to do so anyway. He fails, and even if he'd succeeded it wouldn't have helped, since the virus was already released. It's a bit of a bleak point to the end of the film. But if my memory is wrong you can correct me.)

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 14:58







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    this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 15:14













  • 6





    It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.

    – Acccumulation
    Apr 4 at 1:11











  • I think the answers are right, but I also think (from memory) that the people in the future never knew the vials were opened already. So they were fighting to prevent something that had already happened, only because they thought they could still stop it.

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 10:37











  • @Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.

    – Tom.Bowen89
    Apr 4 at 11:02











  • @Tom.Bowen89 doesn't Cole get shot while chasing the guy with the vials with a gun? Why was he doing that, if he wasn't trying to stop him? (My guess: the mission is not to stop him, but Cole tries to do so anyway. He fails, and even if he'd succeeded it wouldn't have helped, since the virus was already released. It's a bit of a bleak point to the end of the film. But if my memory is wrong you can correct me.)

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 14:58







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    this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.

    – Nathaniel
    Apr 4 at 15:14








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It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.

– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 1:11





It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.

– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 1:11













I think the answers are right, but I also think (from memory) that the people in the future never knew the vials were opened already. So they were fighting to prevent something that had already happened, only because they thought they could still stop it.

– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 10:37





I think the answers are right, but I also think (from memory) that the people in the future never knew the vials were opened already. So they were fighting to prevent something that had already happened, only because they thought they could still stop it.

– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 10:37













@Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.

– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 11:02





@Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.

– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 11:02













@Tom.Bowen89 doesn't Cole get shot while chasing the guy with the vials with a gun? Why was he doing that, if he wasn't trying to stop him? (My guess: the mission is not to stop him, but Cole tries to do so anyway. He fails, and even if he'd succeeded it wouldn't have helped, since the virus was already released. It's a bit of a bleak point to the end of the film. But if my memory is wrong you can correct me.)

– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 14:58






@Tom.Bowen89 doesn't Cole get shot while chasing the guy with the vials with a gun? Why was he doing that, if he wasn't trying to stop him? (My guess: the mission is not to stop him, but Cole tries to do so anyway. He fails, and even if he'd succeeded it wouldn't have helped, since the virus was already released. It's a bit of a bleak point to the end of the film. But if my memory is wrong you can correct me.)

– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 14:58





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this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.

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this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.

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Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:




COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
original form before it mutates. So
scientists can come back and study it
and find a cure. So that those of us
who survived can go back to the surface
of the earth.




The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.






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    Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:




    COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
    original form before it mutates. So
    scientists can come back and study it
    and find a cure. So that those of us
    who survived can go back to the surface
    of the earth.




    The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.






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      A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.

      – James McLeod
      Apr 3 at 13:01















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    Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:




    COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
    original form before it mutates. So
    scientists can come back and study it
    and find a cure. So that those of us
    who survived can go back to the surface
    of the earth.




    The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.






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      A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.

      – James McLeod
      Apr 3 at 13:01













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    Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:




    COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
    original form before it mutates. So
    scientists can come back and study it
    and find a cure. So that those of us
    who survived can go back to the surface
    of the earth.




    The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.






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    Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:




    COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
    original form before it mutates. So
    scientists can come back and study it
    and find a cure. So that those of us
    who survived can go back to the surface
    of the earth.




    The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.







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      A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.

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      A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.

      – James McLeod
      Apr 3 at 13:01







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    A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.

    – James McLeod
    Apr 3 at 13:01





    A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.

    – James McLeod
    Apr 3 at 13:01











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    The goal of the scientists of the future was never to stop the outbreak (their past cannot be changed) it was to develop a cure.






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