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A friend helped me with a presentation – plagiarism or not?
Does it amount to plagiarism by supervisor?What else can I do if a journal editor ignores my report of plagiarism?What to do after I was named as co-author on a paper, without my consent?Friend's Involvement in PlagiarismWhat are the current standards for plagiarism?Professor wants to use required class project for researchHelp me understand plagiarism concerning computer programmingConditions valid for plagiarism and dishonestyIs this plagiarism?Does two lines of copied code constitute plagiarism?
My friend helped me with my assignment. I was having a bit of trouble and he showed me what he did.
The assignment was a speech with a powerpoint in the background.
I did not receive any help in the speech and it was all my own work but two of my slides are similar to his, and I copied his table. The speech is the part directly getting assessed while the powerpoint is merely for the theatrics. This was all done with his permission and he himself showed me how he did the slides.
The powerpoint was twelve slides long. Does this constitute plagiarism?
Edit: I did cite him in a bibliography which I submitted for his contribution. I however did not cite him in the PowerPoint. Also the similar slides are not in the PowerPoint anymore but the table still is.
paper-submission plagiarism
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My friend helped me with my assignment. I was having a bit of trouble and he showed me what he did.
The assignment was a speech with a powerpoint in the background.
I did not receive any help in the speech and it was all my own work but two of my slides are similar to his, and I copied his table. The speech is the part directly getting assessed while the powerpoint is merely for the theatrics. This was all done with his permission and he himself showed me how he did the slides.
The powerpoint was twelve slides long. Does this constitute plagiarism?
Edit: I did cite him in a bibliography which I submitted for his contribution. I however did not cite him in the PowerPoint. Also the similar slides are not in the PowerPoint anymore but the table still is.
paper-submission plagiarism
asked Apr 3 at 13:02
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Is the theatrics evaluated in your grade?
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 3 at 13:16
3
This is what I tell my students: cs.umb.edu/~eb/honesty . I'd approve of your getting help, as long as you acknowledged it.
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 3 at 20:08
5
Could you expand on what you mean by 'copied his table', and what this table contains? Did you literally copy and paste it into your own slide deck? Or did you use the same row and column labels, or other formatting? Did you perhaps just use the same PowerPoint table presets? Was the contents of the table something you have no flexibility in reporting, such as raw data?
– Matt
Apr 4 at 0:05
1
Sometimes I am really surprised by questions and answers. I can give you an entire presentation. It might be unfair to the teacher, perhaps you are not learning, and other dozen - bad or not - things. But forget plagiarism.
– Alchimista
Apr 4 at 9:19
add a comment |
My friend helped me with my assignment. I was having a bit of trouble and he showed me what he did.
The assignment was a speech with a powerpoint in the background.
I did not receive any help in the speech and it was all my own work but two of my slides are similar to his, and I copied his table. The speech is the part directly getting assessed while the powerpoint is merely for the theatrics. This was all done with his permission and he himself showed me how he did the slides.
The powerpoint was twelve slides long. Does this constitute plagiarism?
Edit: I did cite him in a bibliography which I submitted for his contribution. I however did not cite him in the PowerPoint. Also the similar slides are not in the PowerPoint anymore but the table still is.
paper-submission plagiarism
asked Apr 3 at 13:02
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My friend helped me with my assignment. I was having a bit of trouble and he showed me what he did.
The assignment was a speech with a powerpoint in the background.
I did not receive any help in the speech and it was all my own work but two of my slides are similar to his, and I copied his table. The speech is the part directly getting assessed while the powerpoint is merely for the theatrics. This was all done with his permission and he himself showed me how he did the slides.
The powerpoint was twelve slides long. Does this constitute plagiarism?
Edit: I did cite him in a bibliography which I submitted for his contribution. I however did not cite him in the PowerPoint. Also the similar slides are not in the PowerPoint anymore but the table still is.
paper-submission plagiarism
paper-submission plagiarism
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Is the theatrics evaluated in your grade?
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 3 at 13:16
3
This is what I tell my students: cs.umb.edu/~eb/honesty . I'd approve of your getting help, as long as you acknowledged it.
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 3 at 20:08
5
Could you expand on what you mean by 'copied his table', and what this table contains? Did you literally copy and paste it into your own slide deck? Or did you use the same row and column labels, or other formatting? Did you perhaps just use the same PowerPoint table presets? Was the contents of the table something you have no flexibility in reporting, such as raw data?
– Matt
Apr 4 at 0:05
1
Sometimes I am really surprised by questions and answers. I can give you an entire presentation. It might be unfair to the teacher, perhaps you are not learning, and other dozen - bad or not - things. But forget plagiarism.
– Alchimista
Apr 4 at 9:19
add a comment |
1
Is the theatrics evaluated in your grade?
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 3 at 13:16
3
This is what I tell my students: cs.umb.edu/~eb/honesty . I'd approve of your getting help, as long as you acknowledged it.
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 3 at 20:08
5
Could you expand on what you mean by 'copied his table', and what this table contains? Did you literally copy and paste it into your own slide deck? Or did you use the same row and column labels, or other formatting? Did you perhaps just use the same PowerPoint table presets? Was the contents of the table something you have no flexibility in reporting, such as raw data?
– Matt
Apr 4 at 0:05
1
Sometimes I am really surprised by questions and answers. I can give you an entire presentation. It might be unfair to the teacher, perhaps you are not learning, and other dozen - bad or not - things. But forget plagiarism.
– Alchimista
Apr 4 at 9:19
1
1
Is the theatrics evaluated in your grade?
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 3 at 13:16
Is the theatrics evaluated in your grade?
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 3 at 13:16
3
3
This is what I tell my students: cs.umb.edu/~eb/honesty . I'd approve of your getting help, as long as you acknowledged it.
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 3 at 20:08
This is what I tell my students: cs.umb.edu/~eb/honesty . I'd approve of your getting help, as long as you acknowledged it.
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 3 at 20:08
5
5
Could you expand on what you mean by 'copied his table', and what this table contains? Did you literally copy and paste it into your own slide deck? Or did you use the same row and column labels, or other formatting? Did you perhaps just use the same PowerPoint table presets? Was the contents of the table something you have no flexibility in reporting, such as raw data?
– Matt
Apr 4 at 0:05
Could you expand on what you mean by 'copied his table', and what this table contains? Did you literally copy and paste it into your own slide deck? Or did you use the same row and column labels, or other formatting? Did you perhaps just use the same PowerPoint table presets? Was the contents of the table something you have no flexibility in reporting, such as raw data?
– Matt
Apr 4 at 0:05
1
1
Sometimes I am really surprised by questions and answers. I can give you an entire presentation. It might be unfair to the teacher, perhaps you are not learning, and other dozen - bad or not - things. But forget plagiarism.
– Alchimista
Apr 4 at 9:19
Sometimes I am really surprised by questions and answers. I can give you an entire presentation. It might be unfair to the teacher, perhaps you are not learning, and other dozen - bad or not - things. But forget plagiarism.
– Alchimista
Apr 4 at 9:19
add a comment |
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My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?
Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.
answered Apr 3 at 13:11
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But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
– GEdgar
Apr 3 at 13:24
4
@GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
– Solar Mike
Apr 3 at 15:47
1
The certainty exuded by this and other answers bothers me. "Helping" is not plagiarism, and we have no idea what was in this "copied" table or "similar" slides. Certainly I am concerned (particularly if OP asks the question because their teacher is accusing them of plagiarism), but I do not believe we have enough information to say that this is (or is not) plagiarism.
– cag51
Apr 5 at 1:21
1
@cag51 I copied his table is plagiarism to me, when done without attribution. I agree that plagiarism cases are nuanced, but, outright copying a table, seems like a clear case of plagiarism. That said, perhaps elaborate on your perspective in an answer.
– user2768
2 days ago
I think Matt's comment on the question is dead on -- any answer I could give based on the current facts would be very wishy-washy.
– cag51
2 days ago
add a comment |
Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.
Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.
The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.
Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.
answered Apr 3 at 13:19
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+1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
– Neal Young
Apr 3 at 23:23
4
"The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
– vsz
Apr 4 at 4:54
@vsz It's the process of copying (and representing as own result) that makes plagiarism, not the amount of it. If you by chance come up with the same combination of words as someone else, it's not plagiarism. If you report even a single number you knowingly took from somewhere else, and you don't cite, it's plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:44
Regarding your "i++" example, it is indeed copying, but as now one will assume that you came up with that on your own, and you don't explicitly claim that this is your fancy new idea, it's not plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:47
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This is definitely not plagiarism. It's like saying you copied Microsoft's works for using PowerPoint to do your presentation. Both Microsoft and your friend created an environment for you to do your works. You don't have to give them any credit.
Your friend didn't do the works for you. You did all of it yourself.
answered Apr 4 at 6:50
SmallChessSmallChess
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I think this answer is incorrect. The OP's friend created the slides that was used in the OP's presentation, i.e. "your friend did do the works for you".
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:00
@Allure Microsoft created the software that used in the presentation. Did Microsoft do the works? Had you ever credit Bill Gates on your presentation? Microsoft did do the works.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:01
I don't understand you. Microsoft created the program which OP's friend used to create the slides, and it's the slides that were used by the OP.
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:03
@Allure Thus, the slides by OP came from help with Microsoft and the friend. We don't credit Microsoft, so why should we credit the friend? If we don't need to credit the friend, why is this a fraud? Remember, OP only used the template from the friend.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:05
3
@SmallChess If that bothers you, you can see it as a matter of expectations. Your teacher expects you to write the content of your slides. Your teacher expects you to use off-the-shelf office software. Not communicating that you used someone else's source material (e.g. tables) in your slides is deceptive because then people would assume that it's all your work. Not referencing Microsoft is accepted, because your teacher doesn't think you wrote your own software anyway.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 4 at 7:07
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My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?
Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.
answered Apr 3 at 13:11
user2768user2768
15.1k33860
20
But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
– GEdgar
Apr 3 at 13:24
4
@GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
– Solar Mike
Apr 3 at 15:47
1
The certainty exuded by this and other answers bothers me. "Helping" is not plagiarism, and we have no idea what was in this "copied" table or "similar" slides. Certainly I am concerned (particularly if OP asks the question because their teacher is accusing them of plagiarism), but I do not believe we have enough information to say that this is (or is not) plagiarism.
– cag51
Apr 5 at 1:21
1
@cag51 I copied his table is plagiarism to me, when done without attribution. I agree that plagiarism cases are nuanced, but, outright copying a table, seems like a clear case of plagiarism. That said, perhaps elaborate on your perspective in an answer.
– user2768
2 days ago
I think Matt's comment on the question is dead on -- any answer I could give based on the current facts would be very wishy-washy.
– cag51
2 days ago
add a comment |
My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?
Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.
answered Apr 3 at 13:11
user2768user2768
15.1k33860
20
But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
– GEdgar
Apr 3 at 13:24
4
@GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
– Solar Mike
Apr 3 at 15:47
1
The certainty exuded by this and other answers bothers me. "Helping" is not plagiarism, and we have no idea what was in this "copied" table or "similar" slides. Certainly I am concerned (particularly if OP asks the question because their teacher is accusing them of plagiarism), but I do not believe we have enough information to say that this is (or is not) plagiarism.
– cag51
Apr 5 at 1:21
1
@cag51 I copied his table is plagiarism to me, when done without attribution. I agree that plagiarism cases are nuanced, but, outright copying a table, seems like a clear case of plagiarism. That said, perhaps elaborate on your perspective in an answer.
– user2768
2 days ago
I think Matt's comment on the question is dead on -- any answer I could give based on the current facts would be very wishy-washy.
– cag51
2 days ago
add a comment |
My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?
Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.
answered Apr 3 at 13:11
user2768user2768
15.1k33860
My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?
Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.
answered Apr 3 at 13:11
user2768user2768
15.1k33860
answered Apr 3 at 13:11
user2768user2768
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answered Apr 3 at 13:11
user2768user2768
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answered Apr 3 at 13:11
user2768user2768
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But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
– GEdgar
Apr 3 at 13:24
4
@GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
– Solar Mike
Apr 3 at 15:47
1
The certainty exuded by this and other answers bothers me. "Helping" is not plagiarism, and we have no idea what was in this "copied" table or "similar" slides. Certainly I am concerned (particularly if OP asks the question because their teacher is accusing them of plagiarism), but I do not believe we have enough information to say that this is (or is not) plagiarism.
– cag51
Apr 5 at 1:21
1
@cag51 I copied his table is plagiarism to me, when done without attribution. I agree that plagiarism cases are nuanced, but, outright copying a table, seems like a clear case of plagiarism. That said, perhaps elaborate on your perspective in an answer.
– user2768
2 days ago
I think Matt's comment on the question is dead on -- any answer I could give based on the current facts would be very wishy-washy.
– cag51
2 days ago
add a comment |
20
But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
– GEdgar
Apr 3 at 13:24
4
@GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
– Solar Mike
Apr 3 at 15:47
1
The certainty exuded by this and other answers bothers me. "Helping" is not plagiarism, and we have no idea what was in this "copied" table or "similar" slides. Certainly I am concerned (particularly if OP asks the question because their teacher is accusing them of plagiarism), but I do not believe we have enough information to say that this is (or is not) plagiarism.
– cag51
Apr 5 at 1:21
1
@cag51 I copied his table is plagiarism to me, when done without attribution. I agree that plagiarism cases are nuanced, but, outright copying a table, seems like a clear case of plagiarism. That said, perhaps elaborate on your perspective in an answer.
– user2768
2 days ago
I think Matt's comment on the question is dead on -- any answer I could give based on the current facts would be very wishy-washy.
– cag51
2 days ago
20
20
But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
– GEdgar
Apr 3 at 13:24
But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
– GEdgar
Apr 3 at 13:24
4
4
@GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
– Solar Mike
Apr 3 at 15:47
@GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
– Solar Mike
Apr 3 at 15:47
1
1
The certainty exuded by this and other answers bothers me. "Helping" is not plagiarism, and we have no idea what was in this "copied" table or "similar" slides. Certainly I am concerned (particularly if OP asks the question because their teacher is accusing them of plagiarism), but I do not believe we have enough information to say that this is (or is not) plagiarism.
– cag51
Apr 5 at 1:21
The certainty exuded by this and other answers bothers me. "Helping" is not plagiarism, and we have no idea what was in this "copied" table or "similar" slides. Certainly I am concerned (particularly if OP asks the question because their teacher is accusing them of plagiarism), but I do not believe we have enough information to say that this is (or is not) plagiarism.
– cag51
Apr 5 at 1:21
1
1
@cag51 I copied his table is plagiarism to me, when done without attribution. I agree that plagiarism cases are nuanced, but, outright copying a table, seems like a clear case of plagiarism. That said, perhaps elaborate on your perspective in an answer.
– user2768
2 days ago
@cag51 I copied his table is plagiarism to me, when done without attribution. I agree that plagiarism cases are nuanced, but, outright copying a table, seems like a clear case of plagiarism. That said, perhaps elaborate on your perspective in an answer.
– user2768
2 days ago
I think Matt's comment on the question is dead on -- any answer I could give based on the current facts would be very wishy-washy.
– cag51
2 days ago
I think Matt's comment on the question is dead on -- any answer I could give based on the current facts would be very wishy-washy.
– cag51
2 days ago
add a comment |
Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.
Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.
The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.
Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.
answered Apr 3 at 13:19
BuffyBuffy
56.5k16178273
2
+1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
– Neal Young
Apr 3 at 23:23
4
"The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
– vsz
Apr 4 at 4:54
@vsz It's the process of copying (and representing as own result) that makes plagiarism, not the amount of it. If you by chance come up with the same combination of words as someone else, it's not plagiarism. If you report even a single number you knowingly took from somewhere else, and you don't cite, it's plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:44
Regarding your "i++" example, it is indeed copying, but as now one will assume that you came up with that on your own, and you don't explicitly claim that this is your fancy new idea, it's not plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:47
add a comment |
Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.
Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.
The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.
Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.
answered Apr 3 at 13:19
BuffyBuffy
56.5k16178273
2
+1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
– Neal Young
Apr 3 at 23:23
4
"The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
– vsz
Apr 4 at 4:54
@vsz It's the process of copying (and representing as own result) that makes plagiarism, not the amount of it. If you by chance come up with the same combination of words as someone else, it's not plagiarism. If you report even a single number you knowingly took from somewhere else, and you don't cite, it's plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:44
Regarding your "i++" example, it is indeed copying, but as now one will assume that you came up with that on your own, and you don't explicitly claim that this is your fancy new idea, it's not plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:47
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Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.
Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.
The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.
Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.
answered Apr 3 at 13:19
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Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.
Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.
The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.
Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.
answered Apr 3 at 13:19
BuffyBuffy
56.5k16178273
answered Apr 3 at 13:19
BuffyBuffy
56.5k16178273
answered Apr 3 at 13:19
BuffyBuffy
56.5k16178273
answered Apr 3 at 13:19
BuffyBuffy
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56.5k16178273
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+1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
– Neal Young
Apr 3 at 23:23
4
"The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
– vsz
Apr 4 at 4:54
@vsz It's the process of copying (and representing as own result) that makes plagiarism, not the amount of it. If you by chance come up with the same combination of words as someone else, it's not plagiarism. If you report even a single number you knowingly took from somewhere else, and you don't cite, it's plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:44
Regarding your "i++" example, it is indeed copying, but as now one will assume that you came up with that on your own, and you don't explicitly claim that this is your fancy new idea, it's not plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:47
add a comment |
2
+1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
– Neal Young
Apr 3 at 23:23
4
"The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
– vsz
Apr 4 at 4:54
@vsz It's the process of copying (and representing as own result) that makes plagiarism, not the amount of it. If you by chance come up with the same combination of words as someone else, it's not plagiarism. If you report even a single number you knowingly took from somewhere else, and you don't cite, it's plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:44
Regarding your "i++" example, it is indeed copying, but as now one will assume that you came up with that on your own, and you don't explicitly claim that this is your fancy new idea, it's not plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:47
2
2
+1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
– Neal Young
Apr 3 at 23:23
+1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
– Neal Young
Apr 3 at 23:23
4
4
"The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
– vsz
Apr 4 at 4:54
"The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
– vsz
Apr 4 at 4:54
@vsz It's the process of copying (and representing as own result) that makes plagiarism, not the amount of it. If you by chance come up with the same combination of words as someone else, it's not plagiarism. If you report even a single number you knowingly took from somewhere else, and you don't cite, it's plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:44
@vsz It's the process of copying (and representing as own result) that makes plagiarism, not the amount of it. If you by chance come up with the same combination of words as someone else, it's not plagiarism. If you report even a single number you knowingly took from somewhere else, and you don't cite, it's plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:44
Regarding your "i++" example, it is indeed copying, but as now one will assume that you came up with that on your own, and you don't explicitly claim that this is your fancy new idea, it's not plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:47
Regarding your "i++" example, it is indeed copying, but as now one will assume that you came up with that on your own, and you don't explicitly claim that this is your fancy new idea, it's not plagiarism.
– silvado
Apr 4 at 8:47
add a comment |
This is definitely not plagiarism. It's like saying you copied Microsoft's works for using PowerPoint to do your presentation. Both Microsoft and your friend created an environment for you to do your works. You don't have to give them any credit.
Your friend didn't do the works for you. You did all of it yourself.
answered Apr 4 at 6:50
SmallChessSmallChess
1,6411922
3
I think this answer is incorrect. The OP's friend created the slides that was used in the OP's presentation, i.e. "your friend did do the works for you".
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:00
@Allure Microsoft created the software that used in the presentation. Did Microsoft do the works? Had you ever credit Bill Gates on your presentation? Microsoft did do the works.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:01
I don't understand you. Microsoft created the program which OP's friend used to create the slides, and it's the slides that were used by the OP.
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:03
@Allure Thus, the slides by OP came from help with Microsoft and the friend. We don't credit Microsoft, so why should we credit the friend? If we don't need to credit the friend, why is this a fraud? Remember, OP only used the template from the friend.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:05
3
@SmallChess If that bothers you, you can see it as a matter of expectations. Your teacher expects you to write the content of your slides. Your teacher expects you to use off-the-shelf office software. Not communicating that you used someone else's source material (e.g. tables) in your slides is deceptive because then people would assume that it's all your work. Not referencing Microsoft is accepted, because your teacher doesn't think you wrote your own software anyway.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 4 at 7:07
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This is definitely not plagiarism. It's like saying you copied Microsoft's works for using PowerPoint to do your presentation. Both Microsoft and your friend created an environment for you to do your works. You don't have to give them any credit.
Your friend didn't do the works for you. You did all of it yourself.
answered Apr 4 at 6:50
SmallChessSmallChess
1,6411922
3
I think this answer is incorrect. The OP's friend created the slides that was used in the OP's presentation, i.e. "your friend did do the works for you".
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:00
@Allure Microsoft created the software that used in the presentation. Did Microsoft do the works? Had you ever credit Bill Gates on your presentation? Microsoft did do the works.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:01
I don't understand you. Microsoft created the program which OP's friend used to create the slides, and it's the slides that were used by the OP.
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:03
@Allure Thus, the slides by OP came from help with Microsoft and the friend. We don't credit Microsoft, so why should we credit the friend? If we don't need to credit the friend, why is this a fraud? Remember, OP only used the template from the friend.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:05
3
@SmallChess If that bothers you, you can see it as a matter of expectations. Your teacher expects you to write the content of your slides. Your teacher expects you to use off-the-shelf office software. Not communicating that you used someone else's source material (e.g. tables) in your slides is deceptive because then people would assume that it's all your work. Not referencing Microsoft is accepted, because your teacher doesn't think you wrote your own software anyway.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 4 at 7:07
|
show 3 more comments
This is definitely not plagiarism. It's like saying you copied Microsoft's works for using PowerPoint to do your presentation. Both Microsoft and your friend created an environment for you to do your works. You don't have to give them any credit.
Your friend didn't do the works for you. You did all of it yourself.
answered Apr 4 at 6:50
SmallChessSmallChess
1,6411922
This is definitely not plagiarism. It's like saying you copied Microsoft's works for using PowerPoint to do your presentation. Both Microsoft and your friend created an environment for you to do your works. You don't have to give them any credit.
Your friend didn't do the works for you. You did all of it yourself.
answered Apr 4 at 6:50
SmallChessSmallChess
1,6411922
edited Apr 4 at 7:09
answered Apr 4 at 6:50
SmallChessSmallChess
1,6411922
answered Apr 4 at 6:50
SmallChessSmallChess
1,6411922
answered Apr 4 at 6:50
SmallChessSmallChess
1,6411922
1,6411922
3
I think this answer is incorrect. The OP's friend created the slides that was used in the OP's presentation, i.e. "your friend did do the works for you".
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:00
@Allure Microsoft created the software that used in the presentation. Did Microsoft do the works? Had you ever credit Bill Gates on your presentation? Microsoft did do the works.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:01
I don't understand you. Microsoft created the program which OP's friend used to create the slides, and it's the slides that were used by the OP.
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:03
@Allure Thus, the slides by OP came from help with Microsoft and the friend. We don't credit Microsoft, so why should we credit the friend? If we don't need to credit the friend, why is this a fraud? Remember, OP only used the template from the friend.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:05
3
@SmallChess If that bothers you, you can see it as a matter of expectations. Your teacher expects you to write the content of your slides. Your teacher expects you to use off-the-shelf office software. Not communicating that you used someone else's source material (e.g. tables) in your slides is deceptive because then people would assume that it's all your work. Not referencing Microsoft is accepted, because your teacher doesn't think you wrote your own software anyway.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 4 at 7:07
|
show 3 more comments
3
I think this answer is incorrect. The OP's friend created the slides that was used in the OP's presentation, i.e. "your friend did do the works for you".
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:00
@Allure Microsoft created the software that used in the presentation. Did Microsoft do the works? Had you ever credit Bill Gates on your presentation? Microsoft did do the works.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:01
I don't understand you. Microsoft created the program which OP's friend used to create the slides, and it's the slides that were used by the OP.
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:03
@Allure Thus, the slides by OP came from help with Microsoft and the friend. We don't credit Microsoft, so why should we credit the friend? If we don't need to credit the friend, why is this a fraud? Remember, OP only used the template from the friend.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:05
3
@SmallChess If that bothers you, you can see it as a matter of expectations. Your teacher expects you to write the content of your slides. Your teacher expects you to use off-the-shelf office software. Not communicating that you used someone else's source material (e.g. tables) in your slides is deceptive because then people would assume that it's all your work. Not referencing Microsoft is accepted, because your teacher doesn't think you wrote your own software anyway.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 4 at 7:07
3
3
I think this answer is incorrect. The OP's friend created the slides that was used in the OP's presentation, i.e. "your friend did do the works for you".
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:00
I think this answer is incorrect. The OP's friend created the slides that was used in the OP's presentation, i.e. "your friend did do the works for you".
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:00
@Allure Microsoft created the software that used in the presentation. Did Microsoft do the works? Had you ever credit Bill Gates on your presentation? Microsoft did do the works.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:01
@Allure Microsoft created the software that used in the presentation. Did Microsoft do the works? Had you ever credit Bill Gates on your presentation? Microsoft did do the works.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:01
I don't understand you. Microsoft created the program which OP's friend used to create the slides, and it's the slides that were used by the OP.
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:03
I don't understand you. Microsoft created the program which OP's friend used to create the slides, and it's the slides that were used by the OP.
– Allure
Apr 4 at 7:03
@Allure Thus, the slides by OP came from help with Microsoft and the friend. We don't credit Microsoft, so why should we credit the friend? If we don't need to credit the friend, why is this a fraud? Remember, OP only used the template from the friend.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:05
@Allure Thus, the slides by OP came from help with Microsoft and the friend. We don't credit Microsoft, so why should we credit the friend? If we don't need to credit the friend, why is this a fraud? Remember, OP only used the template from the friend.
– SmallChess
Apr 4 at 7:05
3
3
@SmallChess If that bothers you, you can see it as a matter of expectations. Your teacher expects you to write the content of your slides. Your teacher expects you to use off-the-shelf office software. Not communicating that you used someone else's source material (e.g. tables) in your slides is deceptive because then people would assume that it's all your work. Not referencing Microsoft is accepted, because your teacher doesn't think you wrote your own software anyway.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 4 at 7:07
@SmallChess If that bothers you, you can see it as a matter of expectations. Your teacher expects you to write the content of your slides. Your teacher expects you to use off-the-shelf office software. Not communicating that you used someone else's source material (e.g. tables) in your slides is deceptive because then people would assume that it's all your work. Not referencing Microsoft is accepted, because your teacher doesn't think you wrote your own software anyway.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 4 at 7:07
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Is the theatrics evaluated in your grade?
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 3 at 13:16
3
This is what I tell my students: cs.umb.edu/~eb/honesty . I'd approve of your getting help, as long as you acknowledged it.
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 3 at 20:08
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Could you expand on what you mean by 'copied his table', and what this table contains? Did you literally copy and paste it into your own slide deck? Or did you use the same row and column labels, or other formatting? Did you perhaps just use the same PowerPoint table presets? Was the contents of the table something you have no flexibility in reporting, such as raw data?
– Matt
Apr 4 at 0:05
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Sometimes I am really surprised by questions and answers. I can give you an entire presentation. It might be unfair to the teacher, perhaps you are not learning, and other dozen - bad or not - things. But forget plagiarism.
– Alchimista
Apr 4 at 9:19