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Is it legal for company to use my work email to pretend I still work there? [duplicate]
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InMy ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my nameMy boss is sending company email under my nameMy past employer kept my email inbox and assigned it to someone else in the companyIf I own a company, can I use my company email address on my resume?Is my Linkedin profile for personal use or work use?How legal is for a company to reuse a former employee's email account?How to explain career gap due to long running legal drama?Employer wants to add my LinkedIn URL to my Business Card. Should I object?Are there legal consequences for having my salary leaked internally on a document?Is there any legal protection for widowed mothers?Is it wrong not to renew a contract without notice? My company inserted bunch of new clauses at the last minuteRelocated for an internship, still no work permitMy emails on a company email account that I no longer work for
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I recently quit my job due to the toxic work environment.
My job involved email communication with our clients, and my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients. He says he hasn't been able to find a replacement for me yet, and that he doesn't want our clients to think we have turnover. Is this legal?
He also asked me to give him my LinkedIn profile login information. I created it using my work email address and now he says he owns the rights to it since he owns the rights to my work email address too. I'm afraid he's going to edit my work history to make it look like I still work there. What should I do?
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My ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my name
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I recently quit my job due to the toxic work environment.
My job involved email communication with our clients, and my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients. He says he hasn't been able to find a replacement for me yet, and that he doesn't want our clients to think we have turnover. Is this legal?
He also asked me to give him my LinkedIn profile login information. I created it using my work email address and now he says he owns the rights to it since he owns the rights to my work email address too. I'm afraid he's going to edit my work history to make it look like I still work there. What should I do?
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@Brandin please don't answer in comments, post an answer instead :)
– DarkCygnus
Apr 4 at 18:06
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I think often on this site, when OPs use the literal word "legal", they actually just mean "proper". Questions like "Is it legal for X to do Y?" really usually just mean "Should X do Y?" Just another confusing aspect of these sites.
– Fattie
Apr 4 at 22:48
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@Tas My past employer kept my email inbox and assigned it to someone else in the company and highly upvoted: My ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my name
– gnat
Apr 5 at 6:17
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Needs a location: a number of answers are claiming that the company owns the e-mail, therefor it can read/use it, which is simply not true in at least parts of the EU.
– DonFusili
Apr 5 at 8:04
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This is easy as having an email Natasha.Surname@emailprovider.com. You shouldn't create accounts with company-owned emails
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My ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my name
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I recently quit my job due to the toxic work environment.
My job involved email communication with our clients, and my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients. He says he hasn't been able to find a replacement for me yet, and that he doesn't want our clients to think we have turnover. Is this legal?
He also asked me to give him my LinkedIn profile login information. I created it using my work email address and now he says he owns the rights to it since he owns the rights to my work email address too. I'm afraid he's going to edit my work history to make it look like I still work there. What should I do?
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I recently quit my job due to the toxic work environment.
My job involved email communication with our clients, and my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients. He says he hasn't been able to find a replacement for me yet, and that he doesn't want our clients to think we have turnover. Is this legal?
He also asked me to give him my LinkedIn profile login information. I created it using my work email address and now he says he owns the rights to it since he owns the rights to my work email address too. I'm afraid he's going to edit my work history to make it look like I still work there. What should I do?
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@Brandin please don't answer in comments, post an answer instead :)
– DarkCygnus
Apr 4 at 18:06
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I think often on this site, when OPs use the literal word "legal", they actually just mean "proper". Questions like "Is it legal for X to do Y?" really usually just mean "Should X do Y?" Just another confusing aspect of these sites.
– Fattie
Apr 4 at 22:48
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@Tas My past employer kept my email inbox and assigned it to someone else in the company and highly upvoted: My ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my name
– gnat
Apr 5 at 6:17
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Needs a location: a number of answers are claiming that the company owns the e-mail, therefor it can read/use it, which is simply not true in at least parts of the EU.
– DonFusili
Apr 5 at 8:04
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This is easy as having an email Natasha.Surname@emailprovider.com. You shouldn't create accounts with company-owned emails
– L_Church
Apr 5 at 11:53
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@Brandin please don't answer in comments, post an answer instead :)
– DarkCygnus
Apr 4 at 18:06
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I think often on this site, when OPs use the literal word "legal", they actually just mean "proper". Questions like "Is it legal for X to do Y?" really usually just mean "Should X do Y?" Just another confusing aspect of these sites.
– Fattie
Apr 4 at 22:48
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@Tas My past employer kept my email inbox and assigned it to someone else in the company and highly upvoted: My ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my name
– gnat
Apr 5 at 6:17
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Needs a location: a number of answers are claiming that the company owns the e-mail, therefor it can read/use it, which is simply not true in at least parts of the EU.
– DonFusili
Apr 5 at 8:04
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This is easy as having an email Natasha.Surname@emailprovider.com. You shouldn't create accounts with company-owned emails
– L_Church
Apr 5 at 11:53
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@Brandin please don't answer in comments, post an answer instead :)
– DarkCygnus
Apr 4 at 18:06
@Brandin please don't answer in comments, post an answer instead :)
– DarkCygnus
Apr 4 at 18:06
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I think often on this site, when OPs use the literal word "legal", they actually just mean "proper". Questions like "Is it legal for X to do Y?" really usually just mean "Should X do Y?" Just another confusing aspect of these sites.
– Fattie
Apr 4 at 22:48
I think often on this site, when OPs use the literal word "legal", they actually just mean "proper". Questions like "Is it legal for X to do Y?" really usually just mean "Should X do Y?" Just another confusing aspect of these sites.
– Fattie
Apr 4 at 22:48
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@Tas My past employer kept my email inbox and assigned it to someone else in the company and highly upvoted: My ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my name
– gnat
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@Tas My past employer kept my email inbox and assigned it to someone else in the company and highly upvoted: My ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my name
– gnat
Apr 5 at 6:17
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Needs a location: a number of answers are claiming that the company owns the e-mail, therefor it can read/use it, which is simply not true in at least parts of the EU.
– DonFusili
Apr 5 at 8:04
Needs a location: a number of answers are claiming that the company owns the e-mail, therefor it can read/use it, which is simply not true in at least parts of the EU.
– DonFusili
Apr 5 at 8:04
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This is easy as having an email Natasha.Surname@emailprovider.com. You shouldn't create accounts with company-owned emails
– L_Church
Apr 5 at 11:53
This is easy as having an email Natasha.Surname@emailprovider.com. You shouldn't create accounts with company-owned emails
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Regarding the first question, "is it legal?" questions should always be posted on Law SE, not here.
As for your LinkedIn account, LinkedIn has the ability to change your email address associated with your account. It should be in your profile settings somewhere. You should change that.
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Change your email immediately. And in the future never set something up that is not 100% work related using a work email. You may actually have a very difficult time making this change since often access to the old email can be used to reverse things like this. They will most certainly be notified, and they can change your password there now too at any time.
– Bill Leeper
Apr 4 at 18:38
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It's prima fascia fraud, anyone with basic HR knowledge knows that.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 18:39
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@JoeStrazzere certainly that, possibly both, but also could be identity theft as well.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:25
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@JoeStrazzere agreed, the advice here is definitively "get a lawyer" and find out HOW BAD
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:34
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@AlexM,@user87779 You are both technically correct - the best kind of correct!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 23:16
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Update your LinkedIn profile IMMEDIATELY, and report possible fraud to them. Change the email from your work email to a private one.
Get a lawyer to send a cease and desist letter to your previous employer. Ask your lawyer about identity theft and criminal impersonation charges.
Also ask your lawyer if you're permitted to reach out to the clients.
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Note that, from LinkedIn's perspective, this can look a lot like someone pretending to be you to try to hijack your account (as opposed to you trying to hijack your account back from your former boss pretending to be you). If you didn't already have two-step verification or some other backup authentication method set up that isn't tied to your old work e-mail, you could have a hard time proving that you're really you.
– Ilmari Karonen
Apr 4 at 23:09
LI was ask for proof of identity.
– David Schwartz
Apr 5 at 2:13
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Report fraud to LinkEdIn that doesn’t make sense. The author should just change the registered email address.
– Ramhound
Apr 5 at 12:00
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@Ramhound sure it does. A scummy employer that tries this once, will try it again.
– Richard U
Apr 5 at 12:42
I would go a step further. I would ensure that my LinkedIn account clearly states that any e-mails from address ____ or from that domain with my name in them are NOT from me and that I do not work for that company, partly because they do things like that. (But then, after all the spam I got from LinkedIn, I wouldn’t even have an account there.)
– WGroleau
Apr 6 at 10:11
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Company owns your email address (for example natasha.nice@yourcompany.com ) so they could theoretically re-use it, however impersonating someone (especially to obtain financial gain) is strictly forbidden in most civilized societies. For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud.
I advise you to write polite but firm letter to your former company, asking them to cease and desist with this behavior. If they don't respond contact legal professional in your area. In some jurisdictions you could even contact police.
As for LinkedIn, email with the proof of your identity (document issued by your government with the purpose of identification) is enough to close down fraudulent profile.
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It's also a common practice, at least in the US, to keep the e-mail accounts of certain former employees active to receive new mail for some time after their departure. However, access is usually granted through someone else's own account, or some other generic account, and any responses are tagged assent by "y" on behalf of "x"
. Rather than impersonating the departed individual, this is simply a means of ensuring client communications aren't "lost" during the transition.
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:04
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"For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud." It is not itself fraud; rather, it can be used to commit fraud.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 22:14
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@Acccumulation In this case, there is clear intention to mislead clients in order to obtain financial gain. These are elements of criminal act. We do not know if OP is for example expert in her filed, so clients would not be willing to accept to work with someone else. Anyway, it all looks very shady and OP's old company definitely has no legal right to keep impersonating her.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:25
@BryKKan I would agree, but company has no right to communicate trough that email without notifying other party that they are now talking with another person.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:26
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@rs.29 Even if not the an expert, some fields have a heavy emphasis on the client relationship, and the clients can sometimes follow the employee to their new company. Well known in the fashion industry, e.g. with Personal Shoppers - they may work for a company, but the Client Portfolio is theirs.
– Chronocidal
Apr 5 at 8:22
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Congratulations on taking action to get free of a toxic environment!
A lot of people just put up with it.
This is advice for next time (for you) and for any others that might be considering this:
Set your out of office and your voice mail greeting just before you turn in your notice.
Don't say anything nasty towards the company, just a simple:
"I am no longer available.
You can contact [whoever] to get a new representative."
Replace [whoever] with your boss's name, email of the sales department, or anything generic (not a specific person unless that person is a manager/supervisor in charge of your work).
You'll note I said "just before" because if they walk you out, you may not have a chance to do it just after you turn in your notice.
While this isn't a direct answer to your question, I do think it is helpful enough to not just be a comment
(and it is my comment on another answer)
Bringing the following comment in to my answer:
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change
No isn't pointless - you do this as part of a professional exit.
You are pointing the customer to the next person, so they get the best customer service.
You are not "pulling one over on the company in case they pretend you still work there" because, really... how many companies would do this? (I'm expecting it is a very small number)
If you are in a very high touch situation and know it would be traumatic for the customer to be handed over more than once - then maybe you shouldn't set your out of office and redo your voice mail prompt.
It isn't about screwing your current company, it is about helping your customers, and it is about YOU and YOUR professionalism (whether your company deserves it is not relevant)
I would also add that you might set the effective time for your OOO reply to some later time in case some circumstances in the process of leaving and you decide to delay or cancel your departure. Imagine they offer you a nice bonus to stay another month and you agree, only to have 7 clients get your OOO reply while in the meeting!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:09
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Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change.
– alephzero
Apr 4 at 22:27
@alephzero It's tit-for-tat. You can never guarantee to win in a case like this; maybe you thought of more than your company's admin. Maybe you didn't. In any case, I would say that actively calling or emailing clients might be interpreted differently than setting up a voicemail message.
– employee-X
Apr 5 at 6:32
@BryKKan Good point. Two things though... the first is that not all employees have that functionality (not there / not permitted). Second, I wouldn't (in general) recommend accepting a counter offer (especially in a toxic environment). The signed bonus offer to delay departure you mention would be something to consider - if the bonus is reasonable, you actually expect they'll pay it (not fire you the day before), and the timeline is both fixed and reasonably short (not "until we find someone else" because they may not look... recall that OP reported the environment is toxic).
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 5 at 14:21
This is all excellent advice, unfortunately, it's not an answer to the question.
– FreeMan
Apr 5 at 14:44
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Legality definitely matters, but even if illegal, are you willing to hire lawyers and sue? What will the legality do to shape your response?
To me the larger questions are around whether it’s ethical and more directly what’s the harm or value of what’s happening. You need to gauge whatever risk you are willing to undertake either by allowing them to pose as you or in fighting them. There are many facets here.
That said, even if it is somehow legal I consider this a form of identity theft in principle. If it were me, I would do or at minimum strongly consider the following actions:
- Change the email to which my LI account is linked;
- Inform my former employer they absolutely do not have my consent to pose as me;
- Suggest if they wish to retain the use of my existence, we should work out a suitable consulting arrangement;
- Inform them of my intent to do the following if they do not cease posing as me; and
- Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me.
Edit To be clear, in no way am I suggesting the OP's personally affiliated account be shared. The consulting angle implies the OP actually is a consultant and is responding themselves...not licensing use of their name to others.
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Suppose a random person A who did not like the OP was able to log into OP's account because the managers told everyone to log into her account to see if any clients are calling her. Let's say person A saw the linkedin message from a potential employer and used that contact to ruin OP's chance of being hired? Not exactly a great situation for the employer, even if it's the action of another.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:49
@Dan Agreed. One of the many scenarios where this overall sharing of the account is bad (in this case for both OP and former employer). "Let that be a lesson kids. Never ever share your passwords."
– John Spiegel
Apr 4 at 19:10
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"Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me." - Beware - creative lawyers might try to frame this as the OP trying to sabotage his former business, in some jurisdictions. This could work especially in those jurisdictions where "connections" allow some parties to get unequal rights under the law.
– Peter
Apr 5 at 22:48
@Peter - very interesting and good point. I would probably still (if it came to it) go through with it, personally, but that's far from legally sound advice. Sometimes the principle is worth the hassle and for a company to essentially practice professional identity theft, I would be generally willing to take that risk--after some more research.
– John Spiegel
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Your former employer (which might or might not be the boss -- the same would apply to anyone operating on their behalf) would be in breach of the LinkedIn User Agreement if anyone who wasn't you was to use your account.
Paragraph 8.2. sub-paragraph (a).
You could refer to that link as a response to the request.
Upvoted, but I think this would be a better fit as a comment.
– user1717828
Apr 5 at 13:44
@user1717828 The question that the employer has requested LinkedIn login credentials and the asker wants to know what to do about that. Although it's not written explicitly, the strong implication from this post is "Do not give them your login credentials." That's an answer to part of the question.
– David Richerby
Apr 5 at 15:18
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@user1717828 - I was in two minds about that myself, but it didn't seem to fit as a comment to the original post (as a suggested edit it would have changed the question and affected existing answers), and I wasn't able to pick from the answers at time of posting for suggestion as an addition. Imperfect solution, I know.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Apr 6 at 8:17
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I imagine you'd have to go see a lawyer. In terms of ownership, your employer "owns" your email address. So they are allowed to view the contents and/or make appropriate adjustments. There are certain protections but it depends on your country as far as what your employer may view and keep. It may also depend on your country but I would imagine so long as they are using it to direct their business then it is perfectly legal. Now if they are using it to pretend to be you by protective reasons (doctor, lawyer, psychiatrist, bank login, etc) then no, that would definitely not be legal.
Key reason you should not be signing up for LinkedIn with your work account that is not work related. Hopefully you did not do anything important with the account or contacted anyone non-work related. Definitely update any email addresses on various sites, and be sure to contact anyone not related to work that your email has changed.
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While they can still use your work email since it belongs to the company they probably cannot ask your coworkers to impersonate you. I would seek the advice of a lawyer immediately.
As for your Linkedln profile, once again if you created it with your work email they have control of this account as well. You do not need to give them your login information as they can simply reset it with the email that they have control over.
Regardless, seek legal advice regarding the company impersonating you.
If you have the contact information for your former clients, you can reach out to them and let them know you quit the company and that any emails appearing to come from yourself are not actually from yourself.
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I would just use any client contact information and contact they and just say you have left the company and it was a pleasure working with them. Let them draw their own conclusions as to any future conversation utilises your form email
– Ed Heal
Apr 4 at 18:19
Given the ease to "forward" the email, I don't see any reason they should be using the OP's email other than to catch and redirect anything they were working on at the time. If the employer is allowing random employees to log into her account, then that might open the door for (possibly civil only) action.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:24
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It’s probably Ok to keep using your email address. There may be some problems: if you were highly experienced and valued by customers, and you are replaced by someone much less competent, and customers only find out when they are asked to pay for shoddy work performed under your name, that could be a problem. If your reputation suffers, that could be a problem. If your new employers reputation suffers because it looks like their best man is not an employee but working for more than one company, that would be a problem.
So it’s not the reusing of the email address that causes them legal problems, but any consequences.
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Is this legal?
You don't need to worry. Like many other things, company email address is one of the company-provided resources that is owned by the company and made available to you for use. The moment your employment comes to an end with the organization, your access should be ceased. Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern. Company can chose to keep the account active but remove ALL access to it, they can chose to destroy the account information - up to the company policy.
What should I do?
I'll list down three things, which are needed right now:
Change your email address associated with your LinkedIn profile.
-- This way, your boss cannot make any (false) claims to "own" the account, by any means.
Ask your boss for a written request to reveal your password (yes, without you providing your password, they should not be able to access it)
-- If you chose to response, don't provide the password, and loop higher-ups and infosec team (if you have one) in loop. This should teach the people asking for password the lesson they need.
Make sure you don't have any open-ended communications before your leave, transfer the ownership of the ongoing action items to your colleagues / superiors.
-- If there is no ownership on you, anyone pretending to be "you" to get the work, billing or whatever, will be clearly crossing the line, into the legal jurisdiction (if need be).
This way, you can disassociate yourself from any concerns / claims about unauthorized actions, from your end.
Note: If they access your accounts without you providing the password, you need not be worried, you're not responsible anyways.
Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern.
it is when they're pretending to be you. In the EU that's simply identity fraud. The thing to do is: delete the account, create an alias with the same name and forward to department email, e.g. "sales@company.com". Also notifying clients that OP no longer works there with a request that they update their contact details to either another employee or general department address is prudent.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 9:23
@rkeet That's what I said, not OP's concern. If it is identity fraud, it's the company or the people. and whatever you mentioned needs to be done, should be taken care by the company, not OP. Remember, this is not a personal ID.
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 10:41
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OP says in question:my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients
, literally:pretend to be me
. That makes it both personal and identity theft and something the OP must take action on. What happens when the new company OP works at has one of the same companies as customer/client. OP emails them / goes around, and they go "Uhh, we just spoke to you about Z for company X, how come you're now here about A for B? Appears we can't trust you"
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 10:53
@rkeet OK, yes, and what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"? Also, there is nothing to be afraid if I'm not wrong, Say, you lose a key to your house, and s thief found that, and somehow you both end up being in a police station, so the police will say to you: "Uhh, we just saw the key with X (the thief), now you also have a key. Appears we can't trust you"?
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 11:27
(can't tag you for some reason)what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"?
Go to the cops, file charge for identity fraud. - The house-key thing doesn't is nonsensical to the situation described by OP. Better would that you move into a new house, the old owner keeps a key and randomly comes into your house to use your fridge, sit on the couch and watch some on-demand pay-per-view and pretending with the neighbors/neighborhood that he never left and still lives there.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 11:57
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Do you still have access to your work email? You should have sent clients a "Dear John" letter when you quit.
Currently you can only update your LinkedIn profile to put past in the past.
Regarding LinkedIn -- it's your account and I would suggest changing the email. It's linked to the personal one. If you don't have one now, there are lots of free ones.
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I have to disagree with telling clients you are leaving. That's a work issue that the company should handle. Obviously, they shouldn't handle it by faking, but how and when internal company issues get communicated to customers is up to the company.
– DaveG
Apr 4 at 19:34
@DaveG Workplace is workplace, but lots of service positions based on personal relationships and person`s reputation transcends one particular workplace. OP already stated that workplace was toxic, easy for pretenders to ruin her reputation for further job search or even clients endorsements for linked in or even as potential employers in the future
– Strader
Apr 4 at 19:37
I wouldn't recommend sending any sort of notice when you quit. Probably okay to set your out of office message before you go though - I will post as an answer to see if there is a good rebuttal to this.
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 4 at 20:28
@DaveG I've had this happen to me when our providers change personnel. In some cases the new person sends an email introducing themselves. In others they carry on like the person is there which is disconcerting when you call up asking for a specific person who is no longer there. It does depend on the situation.
– Underverse
Apr 5 at 5:42
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I would say make their company name and behavior public knowledge. The company should go bankrupt, not be enabled to steal identities. LinkedIn is like Facebook, except that these are public profiles that represent our professional selves. You are not the company. The company is not you. If I were in this situation, I would save emails and related communications, and then press charges against the executives responsible. Additionally, I would recommend contact with the BBB or similar organization in order to make formal complaints. I might also suggest some communication with your country's local investigative bureau (FBI in the US) being that it is corporate-level fraud and identity theft, or a new form of it.
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Regarding the first question, "is it legal?" questions should always be posted on Law SE, not here.
As for your LinkedIn account, LinkedIn has the ability to change your email address associated with your account. It should be in your profile settings somewhere. You should change that.
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Change your email immediately. And in the future never set something up that is not 100% work related using a work email. You may actually have a very difficult time making this change since often access to the old email can be used to reverse things like this. They will most certainly be notified, and they can change your password there now too at any time.
– Bill Leeper
Apr 4 at 18:38
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It's prima fascia fraud, anyone with basic HR knowledge knows that.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 18:39
4
@JoeStrazzere certainly that, possibly both, but also could be identity theft as well.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:25
1
@JoeStrazzere agreed, the advice here is definitively "get a lawyer" and find out HOW BAD
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:34
2
@AlexM,@user87779 You are both technically correct - the best kind of correct!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 23:16
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Regarding the first question, "is it legal?" questions should always be posted on Law SE, not here.
As for your LinkedIn account, LinkedIn has the ability to change your email address associated with your account. It should be in your profile settings somewhere. You should change that.
148
Change your email immediately. And in the future never set something up that is not 100% work related using a work email. You may actually have a very difficult time making this change since often access to the old email can be used to reverse things like this. They will most certainly be notified, and they can change your password there now too at any time.
– Bill Leeper
Apr 4 at 18:38
46
It's prima fascia fraud, anyone with basic HR knowledge knows that.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 18:39
4
@JoeStrazzere certainly that, possibly both, but also could be identity theft as well.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:25
1
@JoeStrazzere agreed, the advice here is definitively "get a lawyer" and find out HOW BAD
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:34
2
@AlexM,@user87779 You are both technically correct - the best kind of correct!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 23:16
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Regarding the first question, "is it legal?" questions should always be posted on Law SE, not here.
As for your LinkedIn account, LinkedIn has the ability to change your email address associated with your account. It should be in your profile settings somewhere. You should change that.
Regarding the first question, "is it legal?" questions should always be posted on Law SE, not here.
As for your LinkedIn account, LinkedIn has the ability to change your email address associated with your account. It should be in your profile settings somewhere. You should change that.
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Change your email immediately. And in the future never set something up that is not 100% work related using a work email. You may actually have a very difficult time making this change since often access to the old email can be used to reverse things like this. They will most certainly be notified, and they can change your password there now too at any time.
– Bill Leeper
Apr 4 at 18:38
46
It's prima fascia fraud, anyone with basic HR knowledge knows that.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 18:39
4
@JoeStrazzere certainly that, possibly both, but also could be identity theft as well.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:25
1
@JoeStrazzere agreed, the advice here is definitively "get a lawyer" and find out HOW BAD
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:34
2
@AlexM,@user87779 You are both technically correct - the best kind of correct!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 23:16
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show 5 more comments
148
Change your email immediately. And in the future never set something up that is not 100% work related using a work email. You may actually have a very difficult time making this change since often access to the old email can be used to reverse things like this. They will most certainly be notified, and they can change your password there now too at any time.
– Bill Leeper
Apr 4 at 18:38
46
It's prima fascia fraud, anyone with basic HR knowledge knows that.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 18:39
4
@JoeStrazzere certainly that, possibly both, but also could be identity theft as well.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:25
1
@JoeStrazzere agreed, the advice here is definitively "get a lawyer" and find out HOW BAD
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:34
2
@AlexM,@user87779 You are both technically correct - the best kind of correct!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 23:16
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148
Change your email immediately. And in the future never set something up that is not 100% work related using a work email. You may actually have a very difficult time making this change since often access to the old email can be used to reverse things like this. They will most certainly be notified, and they can change your password there now too at any time.
– Bill Leeper
Apr 4 at 18:38
Change your email immediately. And in the future never set something up that is not 100% work related using a work email. You may actually have a very difficult time making this change since often access to the old email can be used to reverse things like this. They will most certainly be notified, and they can change your password there now too at any time.
– Bill Leeper
Apr 4 at 18:38
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46
It's prima fascia fraud, anyone with basic HR knowledge knows that.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 18:39
It's prima fascia fraud, anyone with basic HR knowledge knows that.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 18:39
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4
@JoeStrazzere certainly that, possibly both, but also could be identity theft as well.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:25
@JoeStrazzere certainly that, possibly both, but also could be identity theft as well.
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:25
1
1
@JoeStrazzere agreed, the advice here is definitively "get a lawyer" and find out HOW BAD
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:34
@JoeStrazzere agreed, the advice here is definitively "get a lawyer" and find out HOW BAD
– Richard U
Apr 4 at 19:34
2
2
@AlexM,@user87779 You are both technically correct - the best kind of correct!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 23:16
@AlexM,@user87779 You are both technically correct - the best kind of correct!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 23:16
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Update your LinkedIn profile IMMEDIATELY, and report possible fraud to them. Change the email from your work email to a private one.
Get a lawyer to send a cease and desist letter to your previous employer. Ask your lawyer about identity theft and criminal impersonation charges.
Also ask your lawyer if you're permitted to reach out to the clients.
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Note that, from LinkedIn's perspective, this can look a lot like someone pretending to be you to try to hijack your account (as opposed to you trying to hijack your account back from your former boss pretending to be you). If you didn't already have two-step verification or some other backup authentication method set up that isn't tied to your old work e-mail, you could have a hard time proving that you're really you.
– Ilmari Karonen
Apr 4 at 23:09
LI was ask for proof of identity.
– David Schwartz
Apr 5 at 2:13
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Report fraud to LinkEdIn that doesn’t make sense. The author should just change the registered email address.
– Ramhound
Apr 5 at 12:00
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@Ramhound sure it does. A scummy employer that tries this once, will try it again.
– Richard U
Apr 5 at 12:42
I would go a step further. I would ensure that my LinkedIn account clearly states that any e-mails from address ____ or from that domain with my name in them are NOT from me and that I do not work for that company, partly because they do things like that. (But then, after all the spam I got from LinkedIn, I wouldn’t even have an account there.)
– WGroleau
Apr 6 at 10:11
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Update your LinkedIn profile IMMEDIATELY, and report possible fraud to them. Change the email from your work email to a private one.
Get a lawyer to send a cease and desist letter to your previous employer. Ask your lawyer about identity theft and criminal impersonation charges.
Also ask your lawyer if you're permitted to reach out to the clients.
42
Note that, from LinkedIn's perspective, this can look a lot like someone pretending to be you to try to hijack your account (as opposed to you trying to hijack your account back from your former boss pretending to be you). If you didn't already have two-step verification or some other backup authentication method set up that isn't tied to your old work e-mail, you could have a hard time proving that you're really you.
– Ilmari Karonen
Apr 4 at 23:09
LI was ask for proof of identity.
– David Schwartz
Apr 5 at 2:13
6
Report fraud to LinkEdIn that doesn’t make sense. The author should just change the registered email address.
– Ramhound
Apr 5 at 12:00
2
@Ramhound sure it does. A scummy employer that tries this once, will try it again.
– Richard U
Apr 5 at 12:42
I would go a step further. I would ensure that my LinkedIn account clearly states that any e-mails from address ____ or from that domain with my name in them are NOT from me and that I do not work for that company, partly because they do things like that. (But then, after all the spam I got from LinkedIn, I wouldn’t even have an account there.)
– WGroleau
Apr 6 at 10:11
add a comment |
Update your LinkedIn profile IMMEDIATELY, and report possible fraud to them. Change the email from your work email to a private one.
Get a lawyer to send a cease and desist letter to your previous employer. Ask your lawyer about identity theft and criminal impersonation charges.
Also ask your lawyer if you're permitted to reach out to the clients.
Update your LinkedIn profile IMMEDIATELY, and report possible fraud to them. Change the email from your work email to a private one.
Get a lawyer to send a cease and desist letter to your previous employer. Ask your lawyer about identity theft and criminal impersonation charges.
Also ask your lawyer if you're permitted to reach out to the clients.
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Note that, from LinkedIn's perspective, this can look a lot like someone pretending to be you to try to hijack your account (as opposed to you trying to hijack your account back from your former boss pretending to be you). If you didn't already have two-step verification or some other backup authentication method set up that isn't tied to your old work e-mail, you could have a hard time proving that you're really you.
– Ilmari Karonen
Apr 4 at 23:09
LI was ask for proof of identity.
– David Schwartz
Apr 5 at 2:13
6
Report fraud to LinkEdIn that doesn’t make sense. The author should just change the registered email address.
– Ramhound
Apr 5 at 12:00
2
@Ramhound sure it does. A scummy employer that tries this once, will try it again.
– Richard U
Apr 5 at 12:42
I would go a step further. I would ensure that my LinkedIn account clearly states that any e-mails from address ____ or from that domain with my name in them are NOT from me and that I do not work for that company, partly because they do things like that. (But then, after all the spam I got from LinkedIn, I wouldn’t even have an account there.)
– WGroleau
Apr 6 at 10:11
add a comment |
42
Note that, from LinkedIn's perspective, this can look a lot like someone pretending to be you to try to hijack your account (as opposed to you trying to hijack your account back from your former boss pretending to be you). If you didn't already have two-step verification or some other backup authentication method set up that isn't tied to your old work e-mail, you could have a hard time proving that you're really you.
– Ilmari Karonen
Apr 4 at 23:09
LI was ask for proof of identity.
– David Schwartz
Apr 5 at 2:13
6
Report fraud to LinkEdIn that doesn’t make sense. The author should just change the registered email address.
– Ramhound
Apr 5 at 12:00
2
@Ramhound sure it does. A scummy employer that tries this once, will try it again.
– Richard U
Apr 5 at 12:42
I would go a step further. I would ensure that my LinkedIn account clearly states that any e-mails from address ____ or from that domain with my name in them are NOT from me and that I do not work for that company, partly because they do things like that. (But then, after all the spam I got from LinkedIn, I wouldn’t even have an account there.)
– WGroleau
Apr 6 at 10:11
42
42
Note that, from LinkedIn's perspective, this can look a lot like someone pretending to be you to try to hijack your account (as opposed to you trying to hijack your account back from your former boss pretending to be you). If you didn't already have two-step verification or some other backup authentication method set up that isn't tied to your old work e-mail, you could have a hard time proving that you're really you.
– Ilmari Karonen
Apr 4 at 23:09
Note that, from LinkedIn's perspective, this can look a lot like someone pretending to be you to try to hijack your account (as opposed to you trying to hijack your account back from your former boss pretending to be you). If you didn't already have two-step verification or some other backup authentication method set up that isn't tied to your old work e-mail, you could have a hard time proving that you're really you.
– Ilmari Karonen
Apr 4 at 23:09
LI was ask for proof of identity.
– David Schwartz
Apr 5 at 2:13
LI was ask for proof of identity.
– David Schwartz
Apr 5 at 2:13
6
6
Report fraud to LinkEdIn that doesn’t make sense. The author should just change the registered email address.
– Ramhound
Apr 5 at 12:00
Report fraud to LinkEdIn that doesn’t make sense. The author should just change the registered email address.
– Ramhound
Apr 5 at 12:00
2
2
@Ramhound sure it does. A scummy employer that tries this once, will try it again.
– Richard U
Apr 5 at 12:42
@Ramhound sure it does. A scummy employer that tries this once, will try it again.
– Richard U
Apr 5 at 12:42
I would go a step further. I would ensure that my LinkedIn account clearly states that any e-mails from address ____ or from that domain with my name in them are NOT from me and that I do not work for that company, partly because they do things like that. (But then, after all the spam I got from LinkedIn, I wouldn’t even have an account there.)
– WGroleau
Apr 6 at 10:11
I would go a step further. I would ensure that my LinkedIn account clearly states that any e-mails from address ____ or from that domain with my name in them are NOT from me and that I do not work for that company, partly because they do things like that. (But then, after all the spam I got from LinkedIn, I wouldn’t even have an account there.)
– WGroleau
Apr 6 at 10:11
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Company owns your email address (for example natasha.nice@yourcompany.com ) so they could theoretically re-use it, however impersonating someone (especially to obtain financial gain) is strictly forbidden in most civilized societies. For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud.
I advise you to write polite but firm letter to your former company, asking them to cease and desist with this behavior. If they don't respond contact legal professional in your area. In some jurisdictions you could even contact police.
As for LinkedIn, email with the proof of your identity (document issued by your government with the purpose of identification) is enough to close down fraudulent profile.
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It's also a common practice, at least in the US, to keep the e-mail accounts of certain former employees active to receive new mail for some time after their departure. However, access is usually granted through someone else's own account, or some other generic account, and any responses are tagged assent by "y" on behalf of "x"
. Rather than impersonating the departed individual, this is simply a means of ensuring client communications aren't "lost" during the transition.
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:04
1
"For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud." It is not itself fraud; rather, it can be used to commit fraud.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 22:14
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@Acccumulation In this case, there is clear intention to mislead clients in order to obtain financial gain. These are elements of criminal act. We do not know if OP is for example expert in her filed, so clients would not be willing to accept to work with someone else. Anyway, it all looks very shady and OP's old company definitely has no legal right to keep impersonating her.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:25
@BryKKan I would agree, but company has no right to communicate trough that email without notifying other party that they are now talking with another person.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:26
2
@rs.29 Even if not the an expert, some fields have a heavy emphasis on the client relationship, and the clients can sometimes follow the employee to their new company. Well known in the fashion industry, e.g. with Personal Shoppers - they may work for a company, but the Client Portfolio is theirs.
– Chronocidal
Apr 5 at 8:22
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Company owns your email address (for example natasha.nice@yourcompany.com ) so they could theoretically re-use it, however impersonating someone (especially to obtain financial gain) is strictly forbidden in most civilized societies. For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud.
I advise you to write polite but firm letter to your former company, asking them to cease and desist with this behavior. If they don't respond contact legal professional in your area. In some jurisdictions you could even contact police.
As for LinkedIn, email with the proof of your identity (document issued by your government with the purpose of identification) is enough to close down fraudulent profile.
12
It's also a common practice, at least in the US, to keep the e-mail accounts of certain former employees active to receive new mail for some time after their departure. However, access is usually granted through someone else's own account, or some other generic account, and any responses are tagged assent by "y" on behalf of "x"
. Rather than impersonating the departed individual, this is simply a means of ensuring client communications aren't "lost" during the transition.
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:04
1
"For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud." It is not itself fraud; rather, it can be used to commit fraud.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 22:14
12
@Acccumulation In this case, there is clear intention to mislead clients in order to obtain financial gain. These are elements of criminal act. We do not know if OP is for example expert in her filed, so clients would not be willing to accept to work with someone else. Anyway, it all looks very shady and OP's old company definitely has no legal right to keep impersonating her.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:25
@BryKKan I would agree, but company has no right to communicate trough that email without notifying other party that they are now talking with another person.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:26
2
@rs.29 Even if not the an expert, some fields have a heavy emphasis on the client relationship, and the clients can sometimes follow the employee to their new company. Well known in the fashion industry, e.g. with Personal Shoppers - they may work for a company, but the Client Portfolio is theirs.
– Chronocidal
Apr 5 at 8:22
|
show 3 more comments
Company owns your email address (for example natasha.nice@yourcompany.com ) so they could theoretically re-use it, however impersonating someone (especially to obtain financial gain) is strictly forbidden in most civilized societies. For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud.
I advise you to write polite but firm letter to your former company, asking them to cease and desist with this behavior. If they don't respond contact legal professional in your area. In some jurisdictions you could even contact police.
As for LinkedIn, email with the proof of your identity (document issued by your government with the purpose of identification) is enough to close down fraudulent profile.
Company owns your email address (for example natasha.nice@yourcompany.com ) so they could theoretically re-use it, however impersonating someone (especially to obtain financial gain) is strictly forbidden in most civilized societies. For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud.
I advise you to write polite but firm letter to your former company, asking them to cease and desist with this behavior. If they don't respond contact legal professional in your area. In some jurisdictions you could even contact police.
As for LinkedIn, email with the proof of your identity (document issued by your government with the purpose of identification) is enough to close down fraudulent profile.
answered Apr 4 at 18:25
rs.29rs.29
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50526
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It's also a common practice, at least in the US, to keep the e-mail accounts of certain former employees active to receive new mail for some time after their departure. However, access is usually granted through someone else's own account, or some other generic account, and any responses are tagged assent by "y" on behalf of "x"
. Rather than impersonating the departed individual, this is simply a means of ensuring client communications aren't "lost" during the transition.
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:04
1
"For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud." It is not itself fraud; rather, it can be used to commit fraud.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 22:14
12
@Acccumulation In this case, there is clear intention to mislead clients in order to obtain financial gain. These are elements of criminal act. We do not know if OP is for example expert in her filed, so clients would not be willing to accept to work with someone else. Anyway, it all looks very shady and OP's old company definitely has no legal right to keep impersonating her.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:25
@BryKKan I would agree, but company has no right to communicate trough that email without notifying other party that they are now talking with another person.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:26
2
@rs.29 Even if not the an expert, some fields have a heavy emphasis on the client relationship, and the clients can sometimes follow the employee to their new company. Well known in the fashion industry, e.g. with Personal Shoppers - they may work for a company, but the Client Portfolio is theirs.
– Chronocidal
Apr 5 at 8:22
|
show 3 more comments
12
It's also a common practice, at least in the US, to keep the e-mail accounts of certain former employees active to receive new mail for some time after their departure. However, access is usually granted through someone else's own account, or some other generic account, and any responses are tagged assent by "y" on behalf of "x"
. Rather than impersonating the departed individual, this is simply a means of ensuring client communications aren't "lost" during the transition.
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:04
1
"For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud." It is not itself fraud; rather, it can be used to commit fraud.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 22:14
12
@Acccumulation In this case, there is clear intention to mislead clients in order to obtain financial gain. These are elements of criminal act. We do not know if OP is for example expert in her filed, so clients would not be willing to accept to work with someone else. Anyway, it all looks very shady and OP's old company definitely has no legal right to keep impersonating her.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:25
@BryKKan I would agree, but company has no right to communicate trough that email without notifying other party that they are now talking with another person.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:26
2
@rs.29 Even if not the an expert, some fields have a heavy emphasis on the client relationship, and the clients can sometimes follow the employee to their new company. Well known in the fashion industry, e.g. with Personal Shoppers - they may work for a company, but the Client Portfolio is theirs.
– Chronocidal
Apr 5 at 8:22
12
12
It's also a common practice, at least in the US, to keep the e-mail accounts of certain former employees active to receive new mail for some time after their departure. However, access is usually granted through someone else's own account, or some other generic account, and any responses are tagged as
sent by "y" on behalf of "x"
. Rather than impersonating the departed individual, this is simply a means of ensuring client communications aren't "lost" during the transition.– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:04
It's also a common practice, at least in the US, to keep the e-mail accounts of certain former employees active to receive new mail for some time after their departure. However, access is usually granted through someone else's own account, or some other generic account, and any responses are tagged as
sent by "y" on behalf of "x"
. Rather than impersonating the departed individual, this is simply a means of ensuring client communications aren't "lost" during the transition.– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:04
1
1
"For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud." It is not itself fraud; rather, it can be used to commit fraud.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 22:14
"For example , in US it amounts to a criminal fraud." It is not itself fraud; rather, it can be used to commit fraud.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 22:14
12
12
@Acccumulation In this case, there is clear intention to mislead clients in order to obtain financial gain. These are elements of criminal act. We do not know if OP is for example expert in her filed, so clients would not be willing to accept to work with someone else. Anyway, it all looks very shady and OP's old company definitely has no legal right to keep impersonating her.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:25
@Acccumulation In this case, there is clear intention to mislead clients in order to obtain financial gain. These are elements of criminal act. We do not know if OP is for example expert in her filed, so clients would not be willing to accept to work with someone else. Anyway, it all looks very shady and OP's old company definitely has no legal right to keep impersonating her.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:25
@BryKKan I would agree, but company has no right to communicate trough that email without notifying other party that they are now talking with another person.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:26
@BryKKan I would agree, but company has no right to communicate trough that email without notifying other party that they are now talking with another person.
– rs.29
Apr 5 at 6:26
2
2
@rs.29 Even if not the an expert, some fields have a heavy emphasis on the client relationship, and the clients can sometimes follow the employee to their new company. Well known in the fashion industry, e.g. with Personal Shoppers - they may work for a company, but the Client Portfolio is theirs.
– Chronocidal
Apr 5 at 8:22
@rs.29 Even if not the an expert, some fields have a heavy emphasis on the client relationship, and the clients can sometimes follow the employee to their new company. Well known in the fashion industry, e.g. with Personal Shoppers - they may work for a company, but the Client Portfolio is theirs.
– Chronocidal
Apr 5 at 8:22
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Congratulations on taking action to get free of a toxic environment!
A lot of people just put up with it.
This is advice for next time (for you) and for any others that might be considering this:
Set your out of office and your voice mail greeting just before you turn in your notice.
Don't say anything nasty towards the company, just a simple:
"I am no longer available.
You can contact [whoever] to get a new representative."
Replace [whoever] with your boss's name, email of the sales department, or anything generic (not a specific person unless that person is a manager/supervisor in charge of your work).
You'll note I said "just before" because if they walk you out, you may not have a chance to do it just after you turn in your notice.
While this isn't a direct answer to your question, I do think it is helpful enough to not just be a comment
(and it is my comment on another answer)
Bringing the following comment in to my answer:
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change
No isn't pointless - you do this as part of a professional exit.
You are pointing the customer to the next person, so they get the best customer service.
You are not "pulling one over on the company in case they pretend you still work there" because, really... how many companies would do this? (I'm expecting it is a very small number)
If you are in a very high touch situation and know it would be traumatic for the customer to be handed over more than once - then maybe you shouldn't set your out of office and redo your voice mail prompt.
It isn't about screwing your current company, it is about helping your customers, and it is about YOU and YOUR professionalism (whether your company deserves it is not relevant)
I would also add that you might set the effective time for your OOO reply to some later time in case some circumstances in the process of leaving and you decide to delay or cancel your departure. Imagine they offer you a nice bonus to stay another month and you agree, only to have 7 clients get your OOO reply while in the meeting!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:09
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Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change.
– alephzero
Apr 4 at 22:27
@alephzero It's tit-for-tat. You can never guarantee to win in a case like this; maybe you thought of more than your company's admin. Maybe you didn't. In any case, I would say that actively calling or emailing clients might be interpreted differently than setting up a voicemail message.
– employee-X
Apr 5 at 6:32
@BryKKan Good point. Two things though... the first is that not all employees have that functionality (not there / not permitted). Second, I wouldn't (in general) recommend accepting a counter offer (especially in a toxic environment). The signed bonus offer to delay departure you mention would be something to consider - if the bonus is reasonable, you actually expect they'll pay it (not fire you the day before), and the timeline is both fixed and reasonably short (not "until we find someone else" because they may not look... recall that OP reported the environment is toxic).
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 5 at 14:21
This is all excellent advice, unfortunately, it's not an answer to the question.
– FreeMan
Apr 5 at 14:44
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Congratulations on taking action to get free of a toxic environment!
A lot of people just put up with it.
This is advice for next time (for you) and for any others that might be considering this:
Set your out of office and your voice mail greeting just before you turn in your notice.
Don't say anything nasty towards the company, just a simple:
"I am no longer available.
You can contact [whoever] to get a new representative."
Replace [whoever] with your boss's name, email of the sales department, or anything generic (not a specific person unless that person is a manager/supervisor in charge of your work).
You'll note I said "just before" because if they walk you out, you may not have a chance to do it just after you turn in your notice.
While this isn't a direct answer to your question, I do think it is helpful enough to not just be a comment
(and it is my comment on another answer)
Bringing the following comment in to my answer:
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change
No isn't pointless - you do this as part of a professional exit.
You are pointing the customer to the next person, so they get the best customer service.
You are not "pulling one over on the company in case they pretend you still work there" because, really... how many companies would do this? (I'm expecting it is a very small number)
If you are in a very high touch situation and know it would be traumatic for the customer to be handed over more than once - then maybe you shouldn't set your out of office and redo your voice mail prompt.
It isn't about screwing your current company, it is about helping your customers, and it is about YOU and YOUR professionalism (whether your company deserves it is not relevant)
I would also add that you might set the effective time for your OOO reply to some later time in case some circumstances in the process of leaving and you decide to delay or cancel your departure. Imagine they offer you a nice bonus to stay another month and you agree, only to have 7 clients get your OOO reply while in the meeting!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:09
7
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change.
– alephzero
Apr 4 at 22:27
@alephzero It's tit-for-tat. You can never guarantee to win in a case like this; maybe you thought of more than your company's admin. Maybe you didn't. In any case, I would say that actively calling or emailing clients might be interpreted differently than setting up a voicemail message.
– employee-X
Apr 5 at 6:32
@BryKKan Good point. Two things though... the first is that not all employees have that functionality (not there / not permitted). Second, I wouldn't (in general) recommend accepting a counter offer (especially in a toxic environment). The signed bonus offer to delay departure you mention would be something to consider - if the bonus is reasonable, you actually expect they'll pay it (not fire you the day before), and the timeline is both fixed and reasonably short (not "until we find someone else" because they may not look... recall that OP reported the environment is toxic).
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 5 at 14:21
This is all excellent advice, unfortunately, it's not an answer to the question.
– FreeMan
Apr 5 at 14:44
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show 1 more comment
Congratulations on taking action to get free of a toxic environment!
A lot of people just put up with it.
This is advice for next time (for you) and for any others that might be considering this:
Set your out of office and your voice mail greeting just before you turn in your notice.
Don't say anything nasty towards the company, just a simple:
"I am no longer available.
You can contact [whoever] to get a new representative."
Replace [whoever] with your boss's name, email of the sales department, or anything generic (not a specific person unless that person is a manager/supervisor in charge of your work).
You'll note I said "just before" because if they walk you out, you may not have a chance to do it just after you turn in your notice.
While this isn't a direct answer to your question, I do think it is helpful enough to not just be a comment
(and it is my comment on another answer)
Bringing the following comment in to my answer:
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change
No isn't pointless - you do this as part of a professional exit.
You are pointing the customer to the next person, so they get the best customer service.
You are not "pulling one over on the company in case they pretend you still work there" because, really... how many companies would do this? (I'm expecting it is a very small number)
If you are in a very high touch situation and know it would be traumatic for the customer to be handed over more than once - then maybe you shouldn't set your out of office and redo your voice mail prompt.
It isn't about screwing your current company, it is about helping your customers, and it is about YOU and YOUR professionalism (whether your company deserves it is not relevant)
Congratulations on taking action to get free of a toxic environment!
A lot of people just put up with it.
This is advice for next time (for you) and for any others that might be considering this:
Set your out of office and your voice mail greeting just before you turn in your notice.
Don't say anything nasty towards the company, just a simple:
"I am no longer available.
You can contact [whoever] to get a new representative."
Replace [whoever] with your boss's name, email of the sales department, or anything generic (not a specific person unless that person is a manager/supervisor in charge of your work).
You'll note I said "just before" because if they walk you out, you may not have a chance to do it just after you turn in your notice.
While this isn't a direct answer to your question, I do think it is helpful enough to not just be a comment
(and it is my comment on another answer)
Bringing the following comment in to my answer:
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change
No isn't pointless - you do this as part of a professional exit.
You are pointing the customer to the next person, so they get the best customer service.
You are not "pulling one over on the company in case they pretend you still work there" because, really... how many companies would do this? (I'm expecting it is a very small number)
If you are in a very high touch situation and know it would be traumatic for the customer to be handed over more than once - then maybe you shouldn't set your out of office and redo your voice mail prompt.
It isn't about screwing your current company, it is about helping your customers, and it is about YOU and YOUR professionalism (whether your company deserves it is not relevant)
edited Apr 5 at 13:09
answered Apr 4 at 20:44
J. Chris ComptonJ. Chris Compton
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I would also add that you might set the effective time for your OOO reply to some later time in case some circumstances in the process of leaving and you decide to delay or cancel your departure. Imagine they offer you a nice bonus to stay another month and you agree, only to have 7 clients get your OOO reply while in the meeting!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:09
7
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change.
– alephzero
Apr 4 at 22:27
@alephzero It's tit-for-tat. You can never guarantee to win in a case like this; maybe you thought of more than your company's admin. Maybe you didn't. In any case, I would say that actively calling or emailing clients might be interpreted differently than setting up a voicemail message.
– employee-X
Apr 5 at 6:32
@BryKKan Good point. Two things though... the first is that not all employees have that functionality (not there / not permitted). Second, I wouldn't (in general) recommend accepting a counter offer (especially in a toxic environment). The signed bonus offer to delay departure you mention would be something to consider - if the bonus is reasonable, you actually expect they'll pay it (not fire you the day before), and the timeline is both fixed and reasonably short (not "until we find someone else" because they may not look... recall that OP reported the environment is toxic).
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 5 at 14:21
This is all excellent advice, unfortunately, it's not an answer to the question.
– FreeMan
Apr 5 at 14:44
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I would also add that you might set the effective time for your OOO reply to some later time in case some circumstances in the process of leaving and you decide to delay or cancel your departure. Imagine they offer you a nice bonus to stay another month and you agree, only to have 7 clients get your OOO reply while in the meeting!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:09
7
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change.
– alephzero
Apr 4 at 22:27
@alephzero It's tit-for-tat. You can never guarantee to win in a case like this; maybe you thought of more than your company's admin. Maybe you didn't. In any case, I would say that actively calling or emailing clients might be interpreted differently than setting up a voicemail message.
– employee-X
Apr 5 at 6:32
@BryKKan Good point. Two things though... the first is that not all employees have that functionality (not there / not permitted). Second, I wouldn't (in general) recommend accepting a counter offer (especially in a toxic environment). The signed bonus offer to delay departure you mention would be something to consider - if the bonus is reasonable, you actually expect they'll pay it (not fire you the day before), and the timeline is both fixed and reasonably short (not "until we find someone else" because they may not look... recall that OP reported the environment is toxic).
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 5 at 14:21
This is all excellent advice, unfortunately, it's not an answer to the question.
– FreeMan
Apr 5 at 14:44
I would also add that you might set the effective time for your OOO reply to some later time in case some circumstances in the process of leaving and you decide to delay or cancel your departure. Imagine they offer you a nice bonus to stay another month and you agree, only to have 7 clients get your OOO reply while in the meeting!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:09
I would also add that you might set the effective time for your OOO reply to some later time in case some circumstances in the process of leaving and you decide to delay or cancel your departure. Imagine they offer you a nice bonus to stay another month and you agree, only to have 7 clients get your OOO reply while in the meeting!
– BryKKan
Apr 4 at 22:09
7
7
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change.
– alephzero
Apr 4 at 22:27
Since any company will already have access to all own email accounts regardless of the particular situation the OP is in, this is pointless, since any company computer admin can legally reverse the change.
– alephzero
Apr 4 at 22:27
@alephzero It's tit-for-tat. You can never guarantee to win in a case like this; maybe you thought of more than your company's admin. Maybe you didn't. In any case, I would say that actively calling or emailing clients might be interpreted differently than setting up a voicemail message.
– employee-X
Apr 5 at 6:32
@alephzero It's tit-for-tat. You can never guarantee to win in a case like this; maybe you thought of more than your company's admin. Maybe you didn't. In any case, I would say that actively calling or emailing clients might be interpreted differently than setting up a voicemail message.
– employee-X
Apr 5 at 6:32
@BryKKan Good point. Two things though... the first is that not all employees have that functionality (not there / not permitted). Second, I wouldn't (in general) recommend accepting a counter offer (especially in a toxic environment). The signed bonus offer to delay departure you mention would be something to consider - if the bonus is reasonable, you actually expect they'll pay it (not fire you the day before), and the timeline is both fixed and reasonably short (not "until we find someone else" because they may not look... recall that OP reported the environment is toxic).
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 5 at 14:21
@BryKKan Good point. Two things though... the first is that not all employees have that functionality (not there / not permitted). Second, I wouldn't (in general) recommend accepting a counter offer (especially in a toxic environment). The signed bonus offer to delay departure you mention would be something to consider - if the bonus is reasonable, you actually expect they'll pay it (not fire you the day before), and the timeline is both fixed and reasonably short (not "until we find someone else" because they may not look... recall that OP reported the environment is toxic).
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 5 at 14:21
This is all excellent advice, unfortunately, it's not an answer to the question.
– FreeMan
Apr 5 at 14:44
This is all excellent advice, unfortunately, it's not an answer to the question.
– FreeMan
Apr 5 at 14:44
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Legality definitely matters, but even if illegal, are you willing to hire lawyers and sue? What will the legality do to shape your response?
To me the larger questions are around whether it’s ethical and more directly what’s the harm or value of what’s happening. You need to gauge whatever risk you are willing to undertake either by allowing them to pose as you or in fighting them. There are many facets here.
That said, even if it is somehow legal I consider this a form of identity theft in principle. If it were me, I would do or at minimum strongly consider the following actions:
- Change the email to which my LI account is linked;
- Inform my former employer they absolutely do not have my consent to pose as me;
- Suggest if they wish to retain the use of my existence, we should work out a suitable consulting arrangement;
- Inform them of my intent to do the following if they do not cease posing as me; and
- Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me.
Edit To be clear, in no way am I suggesting the OP's personally affiliated account be shared. The consulting angle implies the OP actually is a consultant and is responding themselves...not licensing use of their name to others.
2
Suppose a random person A who did not like the OP was able to log into OP's account because the managers told everyone to log into her account to see if any clients are calling her. Let's say person A saw the linkedin message from a potential employer and used that contact to ruin OP's chance of being hired? Not exactly a great situation for the employer, even if it's the action of another.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:49
@Dan Agreed. One of the many scenarios where this overall sharing of the account is bad (in this case for both OP and former employer). "Let that be a lesson kids. Never ever share your passwords."
– John Spiegel
Apr 4 at 19:10
1
"Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me." - Beware - creative lawyers might try to frame this as the OP trying to sabotage his former business, in some jurisdictions. This could work especially in those jurisdictions where "connections" allow some parties to get unequal rights under the law.
– Peter
Apr 5 at 22:48
@Peter - very interesting and good point. I would probably still (if it came to it) go through with it, personally, but that's far from legally sound advice. Sometimes the principle is worth the hassle and for a company to essentially practice professional identity theft, I would be generally willing to take that risk--after some more research.
– John Spiegel
yesterday
add a comment |
Legality definitely matters, but even if illegal, are you willing to hire lawyers and sue? What will the legality do to shape your response?
To me the larger questions are around whether it’s ethical and more directly what’s the harm or value of what’s happening. You need to gauge whatever risk you are willing to undertake either by allowing them to pose as you or in fighting them. There are many facets here.
That said, even if it is somehow legal I consider this a form of identity theft in principle. If it were me, I would do or at minimum strongly consider the following actions:
- Change the email to which my LI account is linked;
- Inform my former employer they absolutely do not have my consent to pose as me;
- Suggest if they wish to retain the use of my existence, we should work out a suitable consulting arrangement;
- Inform them of my intent to do the following if they do not cease posing as me; and
- Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me.
Edit To be clear, in no way am I suggesting the OP's personally affiliated account be shared. The consulting angle implies the OP actually is a consultant and is responding themselves...not licensing use of their name to others.
2
Suppose a random person A who did not like the OP was able to log into OP's account because the managers told everyone to log into her account to see if any clients are calling her. Let's say person A saw the linkedin message from a potential employer and used that contact to ruin OP's chance of being hired? Not exactly a great situation for the employer, even if it's the action of another.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:49
@Dan Agreed. One of the many scenarios where this overall sharing of the account is bad (in this case for both OP and former employer). "Let that be a lesson kids. Never ever share your passwords."
– John Spiegel
Apr 4 at 19:10
1
"Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me." - Beware - creative lawyers might try to frame this as the OP trying to sabotage his former business, in some jurisdictions. This could work especially in those jurisdictions where "connections" allow some parties to get unequal rights under the law.
– Peter
Apr 5 at 22:48
@Peter - very interesting and good point. I would probably still (if it came to it) go through with it, personally, but that's far from legally sound advice. Sometimes the principle is worth the hassle and for a company to essentially practice professional identity theft, I would be generally willing to take that risk--after some more research.
– John Spiegel
yesterday
add a comment |
Legality definitely matters, but even if illegal, are you willing to hire lawyers and sue? What will the legality do to shape your response?
To me the larger questions are around whether it’s ethical and more directly what’s the harm or value of what’s happening. You need to gauge whatever risk you are willing to undertake either by allowing them to pose as you or in fighting them. There are many facets here.
That said, even if it is somehow legal I consider this a form of identity theft in principle. If it were me, I would do or at minimum strongly consider the following actions:
- Change the email to which my LI account is linked;
- Inform my former employer they absolutely do not have my consent to pose as me;
- Suggest if they wish to retain the use of my existence, we should work out a suitable consulting arrangement;
- Inform them of my intent to do the following if they do not cease posing as me; and
- Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me.
Edit To be clear, in no way am I suggesting the OP's personally affiliated account be shared. The consulting angle implies the OP actually is a consultant and is responding themselves...not licensing use of their name to others.
Legality definitely matters, but even if illegal, are you willing to hire lawyers and sue? What will the legality do to shape your response?
To me the larger questions are around whether it’s ethical and more directly what’s the harm or value of what’s happening. You need to gauge whatever risk you are willing to undertake either by allowing them to pose as you or in fighting them. There are many facets here.
That said, even if it is somehow legal I consider this a form of identity theft in principle. If it were me, I would do or at minimum strongly consider the following actions:
- Change the email to which my LI account is linked;
- Inform my former employer they absolutely do not have my consent to pose as me;
- Suggest if they wish to retain the use of my existence, we should work out a suitable consulting arrangement;
- Inform them of my intent to do the following if they do not cease posing as me; and
- Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me.
Edit To be clear, in no way am I suggesting the OP's personally affiliated account be shared. The consulting angle implies the OP actually is a consultant and is responding themselves...not licensing use of their name to others.
edited Apr 4 at 20:44
answered Apr 4 at 18:29
John SpiegelJohn Spiegel
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Suppose a random person A who did not like the OP was able to log into OP's account because the managers told everyone to log into her account to see if any clients are calling her. Let's say person A saw the linkedin message from a potential employer and used that contact to ruin OP's chance of being hired? Not exactly a great situation for the employer, even if it's the action of another.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:49
@Dan Agreed. One of the many scenarios where this overall sharing of the account is bad (in this case for both OP and former employer). "Let that be a lesson kids. Never ever share your passwords."
– John Spiegel
Apr 4 at 19:10
1
"Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me." - Beware - creative lawyers might try to frame this as the OP trying to sabotage his former business, in some jurisdictions. This could work especially in those jurisdictions where "connections" allow some parties to get unequal rights under the law.
– Peter
Apr 5 at 22:48
@Peter - very interesting and good point. I would probably still (if it came to it) go through with it, personally, but that's far from legally sound advice. Sometimes the principle is worth the hassle and for a company to essentially practice professional identity theft, I would be generally willing to take that risk--after some more research.
– John Spiegel
yesterday
add a comment |
2
Suppose a random person A who did not like the OP was able to log into OP's account because the managers told everyone to log into her account to see if any clients are calling her. Let's say person A saw the linkedin message from a potential employer and used that contact to ruin OP's chance of being hired? Not exactly a great situation for the employer, even if it's the action of another.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:49
@Dan Agreed. One of the many scenarios where this overall sharing of the account is bad (in this case for both OP and former employer). "Let that be a lesson kids. Never ever share your passwords."
– John Spiegel
Apr 4 at 19:10
1
"Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me." - Beware - creative lawyers might try to frame this as the OP trying to sabotage his former business, in some jurisdictions. This could work especially in those jurisdictions where "connections" allow some parties to get unequal rights under the law.
– Peter
Apr 5 at 22:48
@Peter - very interesting and good point. I would probably still (if it came to it) go through with it, personally, but that's far from legally sound advice. Sometimes the principle is worth the hassle and for a company to essentially practice professional identity theft, I would be generally willing to take that risk--after some more research.
– John Spiegel
yesterday
2
2
Suppose a random person A who did not like the OP was able to log into OP's account because the managers told everyone to log into her account to see if any clients are calling her. Let's say person A saw the linkedin message from a potential employer and used that contact to ruin OP's chance of being hired? Not exactly a great situation for the employer, even if it's the action of another.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:49
Suppose a random person A who did not like the OP was able to log into OP's account because the managers told everyone to log into her account to see if any clients are calling her. Let's say person A saw the linkedin message from a potential employer and used that contact to ruin OP's chance of being hired? Not exactly a great situation for the employer, even if it's the action of another.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:49
@Dan Agreed. One of the many scenarios where this overall sharing of the account is bad (in this case for both OP and former employer). "Let that be a lesson kids. Never ever share your passwords."
– John Spiegel
Apr 4 at 19:10
@Dan Agreed. One of the many scenarios where this overall sharing of the account is bad (in this case for both OP and former employer). "Let that be a lesson kids. Never ever share your passwords."
– John Spiegel
Apr 4 at 19:10
1
1
"Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me." - Beware - creative lawyers might try to frame this as the OP trying to sabotage his former business, in some jurisdictions. This could work especially in those jurisdictions where "connections" allow some parties to get unequal rights under the law.
– Peter
Apr 5 at 22:48
"Contact my former client and vendor contacts/companies and alert them that it’s come to my attention that my former employer may be attempting to pose as me." - Beware - creative lawyers might try to frame this as the OP trying to sabotage his former business, in some jurisdictions. This could work especially in those jurisdictions where "connections" allow some parties to get unequal rights under the law.
– Peter
Apr 5 at 22:48
@Peter - very interesting and good point. I would probably still (if it came to it) go through with it, personally, but that's far from legally sound advice. Sometimes the principle is worth the hassle and for a company to essentially practice professional identity theft, I would be generally willing to take that risk--after some more research.
– John Spiegel
yesterday
@Peter - very interesting and good point. I would probably still (if it came to it) go through with it, personally, but that's far from legally sound advice. Sometimes the principle is worth the hassle and for a company to essentially practice professional identity theft, I would be generally willing to take that risk--after some more research.
– John Spiegel
yesterday
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Your former employer (which might or might not be the boss -- the same would apply to anyone operating on their behalf) would be in breach of the LinkedIn User Agreement if anyone who wasn't you was to use your account.
Paragraph 8.2. sub-paragraph (a).
You could refer to that link as a response to the request.
Upvoted, but I think this would be a better fit as a comment.
– user1717828
Apr 5 at 13:44
@user1717828 The question that the employer has requested LinkedIn login credentials and the asker wants to know what to do about that. Although it's not written explicitly, the strong implication from this post is "Do not give them your login credentials." That's an answer to part of the question.
– David Richerby
Apr 5 at 15:18
1
@user1717828 - I was in two minds about that myself, but it didn't seem to fit as a comment to the original post (as a suggested edit it would have changed the question and affected existing answers), and I wasn't able to pick from the answers at time of posting for suggestion as an addition. Imperfect solution, I know.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Apr 6 at 8:17
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Your former employer (which might or might not be the boss -- the same would apply to anyone operating on their behalf) would be in breach of the LinkedIn User Agreement if anyone who wasn't you was to use your account.
Paragraph 8.2. sub-paragraph (a).
You could refer to that link as a response to the request.
Upvoted, but I think this would be a better fit as a comment.
– user1717828
Apr 5 at 13:44
@user1717828 The question that the employer has requested LinkedIn login credentials and the asker wants to know what to do about that. Although it's not written explicitly, the strong implication from this post is "Do not give them your login credentials." That's an answer to part of the question.
– David Richerby
Apr 5 at 15:18
1
@user1717828 - I was in two minds about that myself, but it didn't seem to fit as a comment to the original post (as a suggested edit it would have changed the question and affected existing answers), and I wasn't able to pick from the answers at time of posting for suggestion as an addition. Imperfect solution, I know.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Apr 6 at 8:17
add a comment |
Your former employer (which might or might not be the boss -- the same would apply to anyone operating on their behalf) would be in breach of the LinkedIn User Agreement if anyone who wasn't you was to use your account.
Paragraph 8.2. sub-paragraph (a).
You could refer to that link as a response to the request.
Your former employer (which might or might not be the boss -- the same would apply to anyone operating on their behalf) would be in breach of the LinkedIn User Agreement if anyone who wasn't you was to use your account.
Paragraph 8.2. sub-paragraph (a).
You could refer to that link as a response to the request.
edited Apr 6 at 16:45
mcknz
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answered Apr 5 at 11:40
ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHereItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
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Upvoted, but I think this would be a better fit as a comment.
– user1717828
Apr 5 at 13:44
@user1717828 The question that the employer has requested LinkedIn login credentials and the asker wants to know what to do about that. Although it's not written explicitly, the strong implication from this post is "Do not give them your login credentials." That's an answer to part of the question.
– David Richerby
Apr 5 at 15:18
1
@user1717828 - I was in two minds about that myself, but it didn't seem to fit as a comment to the original post (as a suggested edit it would have changed the question and affected existing answers), and I wasn't able to pick from the answers at time of posting for suggestion as an addition. Imperfect solution, I know.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Apr 6 at 8:17
add a comment |
Upvoted, but I think this would be a better fit as a comment.
– user1717828
Apr 5 at 13:44
@user1717828 The question that the employer has requested LinkedIn login credentials and the asker wants to know what to do about that. Although it's not written explicitly, the strong implication from this post is "Do not give them your login credentials." That's an answer to part of the question.
– David Richerby
Apr 5 at 15:18
1
@user1717828 - I was in two minds about that myself, but it didn't seem to fit as a comment to the original post (as a suggested edit it would have changed the question and affected existing answers), and I wasn't able to pick from the answers at time of posting for suggestion as an addition. Imperfect solution, I know.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Apr 6 at 8:17
Upvoted, but I think this would be a better fit as a comment.
– user1717828
Apr 5 at 13:44
Upvoted, but I think this would be a better fit as a comment.
– user1717828
Apr 5 at 13:44
@user1717828 The question that the employer has requested LinkedIn login credentials and the asker wants to know what to do about that. Although it's not written explicitly, the strong implication from this post is "Do not give them your login credentials." That's an answer to part of the question.
– David Richerby
Apr 5 at 15:18
@user1717828 The question that the employer has requested LinkedIn login credentials and the asker wants to know what to do about that. Although it's not written explicitly, the strong implication from this post is "Do not give them your login credentials." That's an answer to part of the question.
– David Richerby
Apr 5 at 15:18
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@user1717828 - I was in two minds about that myself, but it didn't seem to fit as a comment to the original post (as a suggested edit it would have changed the question and affected existing answers), and I wasn't able to pick from the answers at time of posting for suggestion as an addition. Imperfect solution, I know.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Apr 6 at 8:17
@user1717828 - I was in two minds about that myself, but it didn't seem to fit as a comment to the original post (as a suggested edit it would have changed the question and affected existing answers), and I wasn't able to pick from the answers at time of posting for suggestion as an addition. Imperfect solution, I know.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Apr 6 at 8:17
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I imagine you'd have to go see a lawyer. In terms of ownership, your employer "owns" your email address. So they are allowed to view the contents and/or make appropriate adjustments. There are certain protections but it depends on your country as far as what your employer may view and keep. It may also depend on your country but I would imagine so long as they are using it to direct their business then it is perfectly legal. Now if they are using it to pretend to be you by protective reasons (doctor, lawyer, psychiatrist, bank login, etc) then no, that would definitely not be legal.
Key reason you should not be signing up for LinkedIn with your work account that is not work related. Hopefully you did not do anything important with the account or contacted anyone non-work related. Definitely update any email addresses on various sites, and be sure to contact anyone not related to work that your email has changed.
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I imagine you'd have to go see a lawyer. In terms of ownership, your employer "owns" your email address. So they are allowed to view the contents and/or make appropriate adjustments. There are certain protections but it depends on your country as far as what your employer may view and keep. It may also depend on your country but I would imagine so long as they are using it to direct their business then it is perfectly legal. Now if they are using it to pretend to be you by protective reasons (doctor, lawyer, psychiatrist, bank login, etc) then no, that would definitely not be legal.
Key reason you should not be signing up for LinkedIn with your work account that is not work related. Hopefully you did not do anything important with the account or contacted anyone non-work related. Definitely update any email addresses on various sites, and be sure to contact anyone not related to work that your email has changed.
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I imagine you'd have to go see a lawyer. In terms of ownership, your employer "owns" your email address. So they are allowed to view the contents and/or make appropriate adjustments. There are certain protections but it depends on your country as far as what your employer may view and keep. It may also depend on your country but I would imagine so long as they are using it to direct their business then it is perfectly legal. Now if they are using it to pretend to be you by protective reasons (doctor, lawyer, psychiatrist, bank login, etc) then no, that would definitely not be legal.
Key reason you should not be signing up for LinkedIn with your work account that is not work related. Hopefully you did not do anything important with the account or contacted anyone non-work related. Definitely update any email addresses on various sites, and be sure to contact anyone not related to work that your email has changed.
I imagine you'd have to go see a lawyer. In terms of ownership, your employer "owns" your email address. So they are allowed to view the contents and/or make appropriate adjustments. There are certain protections but it depends on your country as far as what your employer may view and keep. It may also depend on your country but I would imagine so long as they are using it to direct their business then it is perfectly legal. Now if they are using it to pretend to be you by protective reasons (doctor, lawyer, psychiatrist, bank login, etc) then no, that would definitely not be legal.
Key reason you should not be signing up for LinkedIn with your work account that is not work related. Hopefully you did not do anything important with the account or contacted anyone non-work related. Definitely update any email addresses on various sites, and be sure to contact anyone not related to work that your email has changed.
edited Apr 4 at 18:27
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While they can still use your work email since it belongs to the company they probably cannot ask your coworkers to impersonate you. I would seek the advice of a lawyer immediately.
As for your Linkedln profile, once again if you created it with your work email they have control of this account as well. You do not need to give them your login information as they can simply reset it with the email that they have control over.
Regardless, seek legal advice regarding the company impersonating you.
If you have the contact information for your former clients, you can reach out to them and let them know you quit the company and that any emails appearing to come from yourself are not actually from yourself.
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I would just use any client contact information and contact they and just say you have left the company and it was a pleasure working with them. Let them draw their own conclusions as to any future conversation utilises your form email
– Ed Heal
Apr 4 at 18:19
Given the ease to "forward" the email, I don't see any reason they should be using the OP's email other than to catch and redirect anything they were working on at the time. If the employer is allowing random employees to log into her account, then that might open the door for (possibly civil only) action.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:24
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While they can still use your work email since it belongs to the company they probably cannot ask your coworkers to impersonate you. I would seek the advice of a lawyer immediately.
As for your Linkedln profile, once again if you created it with your work email they have control of this account as well. You do not need to give them your login information as they can simply reset it with the email that they have control over.
Regardless, seek legal advice regarding the company impersonating you.
If you have the contact information for your former clients, you can reach out to them and let them know you quit the company and that any emails appearing to come from yourself are not actually from yourself.
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I would just use any client contact information and contact they and just say you have left the company and it was a pleasure working with them. Let them draw their own conclusions as to any future conversation utilises your form email
– Ed Heal
Apr 4 at 18:19
Given the ease to "forward" the email, I don't see any reason they should be using the OP's email other than to catch and redirect anything they were working on at the time. If the employer is allowing random employees to log into her account, then that might open the door for (possibly civil only) action.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:24
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While they can still use your work email since it belongs to the company they probably cannot ask your coworkers to impersonate you. I would seek the advice of a lawyer immediately.
As for your Linkedln profile, once again if you created it with your work email they have control of this account as well. You do not need to give them your login information as they can simply reset it with the email that they have control over.
Regardless, seek legal advice regarding the company impersonating you.
If you have the contact information for your former clients, you can reach out to them and let them know you quit the company and that any emails appearing to come from yourself are not actually from yourself.
While they can still use your work email since it belongs to the company they probably cannot ask your coworkers to impersonate you. I would seek the advice of a lawyer immediately.
As for your Linkedln profile, once again if you created it with your work email they have control of this account as well. You do not need to give them your login information as they can simply reset it with the email that they have control over.
Regardless, seek legal advice regarding the company impersonating you.
If you have the contact information for your former clients, you can reach out to them and let them know you quit the company and that any emails appearing to come from yourself are not actually from yourself.
answered Apr 4 at 18:01
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I would just use any client contact information and contact they and just say you have left the company and it was a pleasure working with them. Let them draw their own conclusions as to any future conversation utilises your form email
– Ed Heal
Apr 4 at 18:19
Given the ease to "forward" the email, I don't see any reason they should be using the OP's email other than to catch and redirect anything they were working on at the time. If the employer is allowing random employees to log into her account, then that might open the door for (possibly civil only) action.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:24
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I would just use any client contact information and contact they and just say you have left the company and it was a pleasure working with them. Let them draw their own conclusions as to any future conversation utilises your form email
– Ed Heal
Apr 4 at 18:19
Given the ease to "forward" the email, I don't see any reason they should be using the OP's email other than to catch and redirect anything they were working on at the time. If the employer is allowing random employees to log into her account, then that might open the door for (possibly civil only) action.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:24
1
1
I would just use any client contact information and contact they and just say you have left the company and it was a pleasure working with them. Let them draw their own conclusions as to any future conversation utilises your form email
– Ed Heal
Apr 4 at 18:19
I would just use any client contact information and contact they and just say you have left the company and it was a pleasure working with them. Let them draw their own conclusions as to any future conversation utilises your form email
– Ed Heal
Apr 4 at 18:19
Given the ease to "forward" the email, I don't see any reason they should be using the OP's email other than to catch and redirect anything they were working on at the time. If the employer is allowing random employees to log into her account, then that might open the door for (possibly civil only) action.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:24
Given the ease to "forward" the email, I don't see any reason they should be using the OP's email other than to catch and redirect anything they were working on at the time. If the employer is allowing random employees to log into her account, then that might open the door for (possibly civil only) action.
– Dan
Apr 4 at 18:24
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It’s probably Ok to keep using your email address. There may be some problems: if you were highly experienced and valued by customers, and you are replaced by someone much less competent, and customers only find out when they are asked to pay for shoddy work performed under your name, that could be a problem. If your reputation suffers, that could be a problem. If your new employers reputation suffers because it looks like their best man is not an employee but working for more than one company, that would be a problem.
So it’s not the reusing of the email address that causes them legal problems, but any consequences.
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It’s probably Ok to keep using your email address. There may be some problems: if you were highly experienced and valued by customers, and you are replaced by someone much less competent, and customers only find out when they are asked to pay for shoddy work performed under your name, that could be a problem. If your reputation suffers, that could be a problem. If your new employers reputation suffers because it looks like their best man is not an employee but working for more than one company, that would be a problem.
So it’s not the reusing of the email address that causes them legal problems, but any consequences.
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It’s probably Ok to keep using your email address. There may be some problems: if you were highly experienced and valued by customers, and you are replaced by someone much less competent, and customers only find out when they are asked to pay for shoddy work performed under your name, that could be a problem. If your reputation suffers, that could be a problem. If your new employers reputation suffers because it looks like their best man is not an employee but working for more than one company, that would be a problem.
So it’s not the reusing of the email address that causes them legal problems, but any consequences.
It’s probably Ok to keep using your email address. There may be some problems: if you were highly experienced and valued by customers, and you are replaced by someone much less competent, and customers only find out when they are asked to pay for shoddy work performed under your name, that could be a problem. If your reputation suffers, that could be a problem. If your new employers reputation suffers because it looks like their best man is not an employee but working for more than one company, that would be a problem.
So it’s not the reusing of the email address that causes them legal problems, but any consequences.
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Is this legal?
You don't need to worry. Like many other things, company email address is one of the company-provided resources that is owned by the company and made available to you for use. The moment your employment comes to an end with the organization, your access should be ceased. Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern. Company can chose to keep the account active but remove ALL access to it, they can chose to destroy the account information - up to the company policy.
What should I do?
I'll list down three things, which are needed right now:
Change your email address associated with your LinkedIn profile.
-- This way, your boss cannot make any (false) claims to "own" the account, by any means.
Ask your boss for a written request to reveal your password (yes, without you providing your password, they should not be able to access it)
-- If you chose to response, don't provide the password, and loop higher-ups and infosec team (if you have one) in loop. This should teach the people asking for password the lesson they need.
Make sure you don't have any open-ended communications before your leave, transfer the ownership of the ongoing action items to your colleagues / superiors.
-- If there is no ownership on you, anyone pretending to be "you" to get the work, billing or whatever, will be clearly crossing the line, into the legal jurisdiction (if need be).
This way, you can disassociate yourself from any concerns / claims about unauthorized actions, from your end.
Note: If they access your accounts without you providing the password, you need not be worried, you're not responsible anyways.
Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern.
it is when they're pretending to be you. In the EU that's simply identity fraud. The thing to do is: delete the account, create an alias with the same name and forward to department email, e.g. "sales@company.com". Also notifying clients that OP no longer works there with a request that they update their contact details to either another employee or general department address is prudent.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 9:23
@rkeet That's what I said, not OP's concern. If it is identity fraud, it's the company or the people. and whatever you mentioned needs to be done, should be taken care by the company, not OP. Remember, this is not a personal ID.
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 10:41
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OP says in question:my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients
, literally:pretend to be me
. That makes it both personal and identity theft and something the OP must take action on. What happens when the new company OP works at has one of the same companies as customer/client. OP emails them / goes around, and they go "Uhh, we just spoke to you about Z for company X, how come you're now here about A for B? Appears we can't trust you"
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 10:53
@rkeet OK, yes, and what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"? Also, there is nothing to be afraid if I'm not wrong, Say, you lose a key to your house, and s thief found that, and somehow you both end up being in a police station, so the police will say to you: "Uhh, we just saw the key with X (the thief), now you also have a key. Appears we can't trust you"?
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 11:27
(can't tag you for some reason)what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"?
Go to the cops, file charge for identity fraud. - The house-key thing doesn't is nonsensical to the situation described by OP. Better would that you move into a new house, the old owner keeps a key and randomly comes into your house to use your fridge, sit on the couch and watch some on-demand pay-per-view and pretending with the neighbors/neighborhood that he never left and still lives there.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 11:57
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Is this legal?
You don't need to worry. Like many other things, company email address is one of the company-provided resources that is owned by the company and made available to you for use. The moment your employment comes to an end with the organization, your access should be ceased. Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern. Company can chose to keep the account active but remove ALL access to it, they can chose to destroy the account information - up to the company policy.
What should I do?
I'll list down three things, which are needed right now:
Change your email address associated with your LinkedIn profile.
-- This way, your boss cannot make any (false) claims to "own" the account, by any means.
Ask your boss for a written request to reveal your password (yes, without you providing your password, they should not be able to access it)
-- If you chose to response, don't provide the password, and loop higher-ups and infosec team (if you have one) in loop. This should teach the people asking for password the lesson they need.
Make sure you don't have any open-ended communications before your leave, transfer the ownership of the ongoing action items to your colleagues / superiors.
-- If there is no ownership on you, anyone pretending to be "you" to get the work, billing or whatever, will be clearly crossing the line, into the legal jurisdiction (if need be).
This way, you can disassociate yourself from any concerns / claims about unauthorized actions, from your end.
Note: If they access your accounts without you providing the password, you need not be worried, you're not responsible anyways.
Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern.
it is when they're pretending to be you. In the EU that's simply identity fraud. The thing to do is: delete the account, create an alias with the same name and forward to department email, e.g. "sales@company.com". Also notifying clients that OP no longer works there with a request that they update their contact details to either another employee or general department address is prudent.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 9:23
@rkeet That's what I said, not OP's concern. If it is identity fraud, it's the company or the people. and whatever you mentioned needs to be done, should be taken care by the company, not OP. Remember, this is not a personal ID.
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 10:41
2
OP says in question:my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients
, literally:pretend to be me
. That makes it both personal and identity theft and something the OP must take action on. What happens when the new company OP works at has one of the same companies as customer/client. OP emails them / goes around, and they go "Uhh, we just spoke to you about Z for company X, how come you're now here about A for B? Appears we can't trust you"
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 10:53
@rkeet OK, yes, and what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"? Also, there is nothing to be afraid if I'm not wrong, Say, you lose a key to your house, and s thief found that, and somehow you both end up being in a police station, so the police will say to you: "Uhh, we just saw the key with X (the thief), now you also have a key. Appears we can't trust you"?
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 11:27
(can't tag you for some reason)what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"?
Go to the cops, file charge for identity fraud. - The house-key thing doesn't is nonsensical to the situation described by OP. Better would that you move into a new house, the old owner keeps a key and randomly comes into your house to use your fridge, sit on the couch and watch some on-demand pay-per-view and pretending with the neighbors/neighborhood that he never left and still lives there.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 11:57
|
show 2 more comments
Is this legal?
You don't need to worry. Like many other things, company email address is one of the company-provided resources that is owned by the company and made available to you for use. The moment your employment comes to an end with the organization, your access should be ceased. Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern. Company can chose to keep the account active but remove ALL access to it, they can chose to destroy the account information - up to the company policy.
What should I do?
I'll list down three things, which are needed right now:
Change your email address associated with your LinkedIn profile.
-- This way, your boss cannot make any (false) claims to "own" the account, by any means.
Ask your boss for a written request to reveal your password (yes, without you providing your password, they should not be able to access it)
-- If you chose to response, don't provide the password, and loop higher-ups and infosec team (if you have one) in loop. This should teach the people asking for password the lesson they need.
Make sure you don't have any open-ended communications before your leave, transfer the ownership of the ongoing action items to your colleagues / superiors.
-- If there is no ownership on you, anyone pretending to be "you" to get the work, billing or whatever, will be clearly crossing the line, into the legal jurisdiction (if need be).
This way, you can disassociate yourself from any concerns / claims about unauthorized actions, from your end.
Note: If they access your accounts without you providing the password, you need not be worried, you're not responsible anyways.
Is this legal?
You don't need to worry. Like many other things, company email address is one of the company-provided resources that is owned by the company and made available to you for use. The moment your employment comes to an end with the organization, your access should be ceased. Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern. Company can chose to keep the account active but remove ALL access to it, they can chose to destroy the account information - up to the company policy.
What should I do?
I'll list down three things, which are needed right now:
Change your email address associated with your LinkedIn profile.
-- This way, your boss cannot make any (false) claims to "own" the account, by any means.
Ask your boss for a written request to reveal your password (yes, without you providing your password, they should not be able to access it)
-- If you chose to response, don't provide the password, and loop higher-ups and infosec team (if you have one) in loop. This should teach the people asking for password the lesson they need.
Make sure you don't have any open-ended communications before your leave, transfer the ownership of the ongoing action items to your colleagues / superiors.
-- If there is no ownership on you, anyone pretending to be "you" to get the work, billing or whatever, will be clearly crossing the line, into the legal jurisdiction (if need be).
This way, you can disassociate yourself from any concerns / claims about unauthorized actions, from your end.
Note: If they access your accounts without you providing the password, you need not be worried, you're not responsible anyways.
edited Apr 5 at 5:47
answered Apr 5 at 5:36
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
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Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern.
it is when they're pretending to be you. In the EU that's simply identity fraud. The thing to do is: delete the account, create an alias with the same name and forward to department email, e.g. "sales@company.com". Also notifying clients that OP no longer works there with a request that they update their contact details to either another employee or general department address is prudent.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 9:23
@rkeet That's what I said, not OP's concern. If it is identity fraud, it's the company or the people. and whatever you mentioned needs to be done, should be taken care by the company, not OP. Remember, this is not a personal ID.
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 10:41
2
OP says in question:my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients
, literally:pretend to be me
. That makes it both personal and identity theft and something the OP must take action on. What happens when the new company OP works at has one of the same companies as customer/client. OP emails them / goes around, and they go "Uhh, we just spoke to you about Z for company X, how come you're now here about A for B? Appears we can't trust you"
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 10:53
@rkeet OK, yes, and what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"? Also, there is nothing to be afraid if I'm not wrong, Say, you lose a key to your house, and s thief found that, and somehow you both end up being in a police station, so the police will say to you: "Uhh, we just saw the key with X (the thief), now you also have a key. Appears we can't trust you"?
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 11:27
(can't tag you for some reason)what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"?
Go to the cops, file charge for identity fraud. - The house-key thing doesn't is nonsensical to the situation described by OP. Better would that you move into a new house, the old owner keeps a key and randomly comes into your house to use your fridge, sit on the couch and watch some on-demand pay-per-view and pretending with the neighbors/neighborhood that he never left and still lives there.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 11:57
|
show 2 more comments
Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern.
it is when they're pretending to be you. In the EU that's simply identity fraud. The thing to do is: delete the account, create an alias with the same name and forward to department email, e.g. "sales@company.com". Also notifying clients that OP no longer works there with a request that they update their contact details to either another employee or general department address is prudent.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 9:23
@rkeet That's what I said, not OP's concern. If it is identity fraud, it's the company or the people. and whatever you mentioned needs to be done, should be taken care by the company, not OP. Remember, this is not a personal ID.
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 10:41
2
OP says in question:my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients
, literally:pretend to be me
. That makes it both personal and identity theft and something the OP must take action on. What happens when the new company OP works at has one of the same companies as customer/client. OP emails them / goes around, and they go "Uhh, we just spoke to you about Z for company X, how come you're now here about A for B? Appears we can't trust you"
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 10:53
@rkeet OK, yes, and what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"? Also, there is nothing to be afraid if I'm not wrong, Say, you lose a key to your house, and s thief found that, and somehow you both end up being in a police station, so the police will say to you: "Uhh, we just saw the key with X (the thief), now you also have a key. Appears we can't trust you"?
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 11:27
(can't tag you for some reason)what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"?
Go to the cops, file charge for identity fraud. - The house-key thing doesn't is nonsensical to the situation described by OP. Better would that you move into a new house, the old owner keeps a key and randomly comes into your house to use your fridge, sit on the couch and watch some on-demand pay-per-view and pretending with the neighbors/neighborhood that he never left and still lives there.
– rkeet
Apr 5 at 11:57
Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern.
it is when they're pretending to be you. In the EU that's simply identity fraud. The thing to do is: delete the account, create an alias with the same name and forward to department email, e.g. "sales@company.com". Also notifying clients that OP no longer works there with a request that they update their contact details to either another employee or general department address is prudent.– rkeet
Apr 5 at 9:23
Going further, what happens to your account (or related information), is not your concern.
it is when they're pretending to be you. In the EU that's simply identity fraud. The thing to do is: delete the account, create an alias with the same name and forward to department email, e.g. "sales@company.com". Also notifying clients that OP no longer works there with a request that they update their contact details to either another employee or general department address is prudent.– rkeet
Apr 5 at 9:23
@rkeet That's what I said, not OP's concern. If it is identity fraud, it's the company or the people. and whatever you mentioned needs to be done, should be taken care by the company, not OP. Remember, this is not a personal ID.
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 10:41
@rkeet That's what I said, not OP's concern. If it is identity fraud, it's the company or the people. and whatever you mentioned needs to be done, should be taken care by the company, not OP. Remember, this is not a personal ID.
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 10:41
2
2
OP says in question:
my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients
, literally: pretend to be me
. That makes it both personal and identity theft and something the OP must take action on. What happens when the new company OP works at has one of the same companies as customer/client. OP emails them / goes around, and they go "Uhh, we just spoke to you about Z for company X, how come you're now here about A for B? Appears we can't trust you"– rkeet
Apr 5 at 10:53
OP says in question:
my boss has asked my coworkers to use my email to pretend to be me and talk to our clients
, literally: pretend to be me
. That makes it both personal and identity theft and something the OP must take action on. What happens when the new company OP works at has one of the same companies as customer/client. OP emails them / goes around, and they go "Uhh, we just spoke to you about Z for company X, how come you're now here about A for B? Appears we can't trust you"– rkeet
Apr 5 at 10:53
@rkeet OK, yes, and what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"? Also, there is nothing to be afraid if I'm not wrong, Say, you lose a key to your house, and s thief found that, and somehow you both end up being in a police station, so the police will say to you: "Uhh, we just saw the key with X (the thief), now you also have a key. Appears we can't trust you"?
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 11:27
@rkeet OK, yes, and what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"? Also, there is nothing to be afraid if I'm not wrong, Say, you lose a key to your house, and s thief found that, and somehow you both end up being in a police station, so the police will say to you: "Uhh, we just saw the key with X (the thief), now you also have a key. Appears we can't trust you"?
– Sourav Ghosh
Apr 5 at 11:27
(can't tag you for some reason)
what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"?
Go to the cops, file charge for identity fraud. - The house-key thing doesn't is nonsensical to the situation described by OP. Better would that you move into a new house, the old owner keeps a key and randomly comes into your house to use your fridge, sit on the couch and watch some on-demand pay-per-view and pretending with the neighbors/neighborhood that he never left and still lives there.– rkeet
Apr 5 at 11:57
(can't tag you for some reason)
what do you suggest OP "must" do to prevent the "theft"?
Go to the cops, file charge for identity fraud. - The house-key thing doesn't is nonsensical to the situation described by OP. Better would that you move into a new house, the old owner keeps a key and randomly comes into your house to use your fridge, sit on the couch and watch some on-demand pay-per-view and pretending with the neighbors/neighborhood that he never left and still lives there.– rkeet
Apr 5 at 11:57
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Do you still have access to your work email? You should have sent clients a "Dear John" letter when you quit.
Currently you can only update your LinkedIn profile to put past in the past.
Regarding LinkedIn -- it's your account and I would suggest changing the email. It's linked to the personal one. If you don't have one now, there are lots of free ones.
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I have to disagree with telling clients you are leaving. That's a work issue that the company should handle. Obviously, they shouldn't handle it by faking, but how and when internal company issues get communicated to customers is up to the company.
– DaveG
Apr 4 at 19:34
@DaveG Workplace is workplace, but lots of service positions based on personal relationships and person`s reputation transcends one particular workplace. OP already stated that workplace was toxic, easy for pretenders to ruin her reputation for further job search or even clients endorsements for linked in or even as potential employers in the future
– Strader
Apr 4 at 19:37
I wouldn't recommend sending any sort of notice when you quit. Probably okay to set your out of office message before you go though - I will post as an answer to see if there is a good rebuttal to this.
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 4 at 20:28
@DaveG I've had this happen to me when our providers change personnel. In some cases the new person sends an email introducing themselves. In others they carry on like the person is there which is disconcerting when you call up asking for a specific person who is no longer there. It does depend on the situation.
– Underverse
Apr 5 at 5:42
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Do you still have access to your work email? You should have sent clients a "Dear John" letter when you quit.
Currently you can only update your LinkedIn profile to put past in the past.
Regarding LinkedIn -- it's your account and I would suggest changing the email. It's linked to the personal one. If you don't have one now, there are lots of free ones.
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I have to disagree with telling clients you are leaving. That's a work issue that the company should handle. Obviously, they shouldn't handle it by faking, but how and when internal company issues get communicated to customers is up to the company.
– DaveG
Apr 4 at 19:34
@DaveG Workplace is workplace, but lots of service positions based on personal relationships and person`s reputation transcends one particular workplace. OP already stated that workplace was toxic, easy for pretenders to ruin her reputation for further job search or even clients endorsements for linked in or even as potential employers in the future
– Strader
Apr 4 at 19:37
I wouldn't recommend sending any sort of notice when you quit. Probably okay to set your out of office message before you go though - I will post as an answer to see if there is a good rebuttal to this.
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 4 at 20:28
@DaveG I've had this happen to me when our providers change personnel. In some cases the new person sends an email introducing themselves. In others they carry on like the person is there which is disconcerting when you call up asking for a specific person who is no longer there. It does depend on the situation.
– Underverse
Apr 5 at 5:42
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Do you still have access to your work email? You should have sent clients a "Dear John" letter when you quit.
Currently you can only update your LinkedIn profile to put past in the past.
Regarding LinkedIn -- it's your account and I would suggest changing the email. It's linked to the personal one. If you don't have one now, there are lots of free ones.
Do you still have access to your work email? You should have sent clients a "Dear John" letter when you quit.
Currently you can only update your LinkedIn profile to put past in the past.
Regarding LinkedIn -- it's your account and I would suggest changing the email. It's linked to the personal one. If you don't have one now, there are lots of free ones.
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I have to disagree with telling clients you are leaving. That's a work issue that the company should handle. Obviously, they shouldn't handle it by faking, but how and when internal company issues get communicated to customers is up to the company.
– DaveG
Apr 4 at 19:34
@DaveG Workplace is workplace, but lots of service positions based on personal relationships and person`s reputation transcends one particular workplace. OP already stated that workplace was toxic, easy for pretenders to ruin her reputation for further job search or even clients endorsements for linked in or even as potential employers in the future
– Strader
Apr 4 at 19:37
I wouldn't recommend sending any sort of notice when you quit. Probably okay to set your out of office message before you go though - I will post as an answer to see if there is a good rebuttal to this.
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 4 at 20:28
@DaveG I've had this happen to me when our providers change personnel. In some cases the new person sends an email introducing themselves. In others they carry on like the person is there which is disconcerting when you call up asking for a specific person who is no longer there. It does depend on the situation.
– Underverse
Apr 5 at 5:42
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I have to disagree with telling clients you are leaving. That's a work issue that the company should handle. Obviously, they shouldn't handle it by faking, but how and when internal company issues get communicated to customers is up to the company.
– DaveG
Apr 4 at 19:34
@DaveG Workplace is workplace, but lots of service positions based on personal relationships and person`s reputation transcends one particular workplace. OP already stated that workplace was toxic, easy for pretenders to ruin her reputation for further job search or even clients endorsements for linked in or even as potential employers in the future
– Strader
Apr 4 at 19:37
I wouldn't recommend sending any sort of notice when you quit. Probably okay to set your out of office message before you go though - I will post as an answer to see if there is a good rebuttal to this.
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 4 at 20:28
@DaveG I've had this happen to me when our providers change personnel. In some cases the new person sends an email introducing themselves. In others they carry on like the person is there which is disconcerting when you call up asking for a specific person who is no longer there. It does depend on the situation.
– Underverse
Apr 5 at 5:42
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I have to disagree with telling clients you are leaving. That's a work issue that the company should handle. Obviously, they shouldn't handle it by faking, but how and when internal company issues get communicated to customers is up to the company.
– DaveG
Apr 4 at 19:34
I have to disagree with telling clients you are leaving. That's a work issue that the company should handle. Obviously, they shouldn't handle it by faking, but how and when internal company issues get communicated to customers is up to the company.
– DaveG
Apr 4 at 19:34
@DaveG Workplace is workplace, but lots of service positions based on personal relationships and person`s reputation transcends one particular workplace. OP already stated that workplace was toxic, easy for pretenders to ruin her reputation for further job search or even clients endorsements for linked in or even as potential employers in the future
– Strader
Apr 4 at 19:37
@DaveG Workplace is workplace, but lots of service positions based on personal relationships and person`s reputation transcends one particular workplace. OP already stated that workplace was toxic, easy for pretenders to ruin her reputation for further job search or even clients endorsements for linked in or even as potential employers in the future
– Strader
Apr 4 at 19:37
I wouldn't recommend sending any sort of notice when you quit. Probably okay to set your out of office message before you go though - I will post as an answer to see if there is a good rebuttal to this.
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 4 at 20:28
I wouldn't recommend sending any sort of notice when you quit. Probably okay to set your out of office message before you go though - I will post as an answer to see if there is a good rebuttal to this.
– J. Chris Compton
Apr 4 at 20:28
@DaveG I've had this happen to me when our providers change personnel. In some cases the new person sends an email introducing themselves. In others they carry on like the person is there which is disconcerting when you call up asking for a specific person who is no longer there. It does depend on the situation.
– Underverse
Apr 5 at 5:42
@DaveG I've had this happen to me when our providers change personnel. In some cases the new person sends an email introducing themselves. In others they carry on like the person is there which is disconcerting when you call up asking for a specific person who is no longer there. It does depend on the situation.
– Underverse
Apr 5 at 5:42
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I would say make their company name and behavior public knowledge. The company should go bankrupt, not be enabled to steal identities. LinkedIn is like Facebook, except that these are public profiles that represent our professional selves. You are not the company. The company is not you. If I were in this situation, I would save emails and related communications, and then press charges against the executives responsible. Additionally, I would recommend contact with the BBB or similar organization in order to make formal complaints. I might also suggest some communication with your country's local investigative bureau (FBI in the US) being that it is corporate-level fraud and identity theft, or a new form of it.
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suggestion to communicate with FBI looks confusing because nothing in the question appears to indicate that it's about US. Please consider editing to clarify this. See also: How to Answer
– gnat
yesterday
Thank you for the suggestion on clarity, @gnat. I have implemented it.
– CA Trevillian
yesterday
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I would say make their company name and behavior public knowledge. The company should go bankrupt, not be enabled to steal identities. LinkedIn is like Facebook, except that these are public profiles that represent our professional selves. You are not the company. The company is not you. If I were in this situation, I would save emails and related communications, and then press charges against the executives responsible. Additionally, I would recommend contact with the BBB or similar organization in order to make formal complaints. I might also suggest some communication with your country's local investigative bureau (FBI in the US) being that it is corporate-level fraud and identity theft, or a new form of it.
New contributor
suggestion to communicate with FBI looks confusing because nothing in the question appears to indicate that it's about US. Please consider editing to clarify this. See also: How to Answer
– gnat
yesterday
Thank you for the suggestion on clarity, @gnat. I have implemented it.
– CA Trevillian
yesterday
add a comment |
I would say make their company name and behavior public knowledge. The company should go bankrupt, not be enabled to steal identities. LinkedIn is like Facebook, except that these are public profiles that represent our professional selves. You are not the company. The company is not you. If I were in this situation, I would save emails and related communications, and then press charges against the executives responsible. Additionally, I would recommend contact with the BBB or similar organization in order to make formal complaints. I might also suggest some communication with your country's local investigative bureau (FBI in the US) being that it is corporate-level fraud and identity theft, or a new form of it.
New contributor
I would say make their company name and behavior public knowledge. The company should go bankrupt, not be enabled to steal identities. LinkedIn is like Facebook, except that these are public profiles that represent our professional selves. You are not the company. The company is not you. If I were in this situation, I would save emails and related communications, and then press charges against the executives responsible. Additionally, I would recommend contact with the BBB or similar organization in order to make formal complaints. I might also suggest some communication with your country's local investigative bureau (FBI in the US) being that it is corporate-level fraud and identity theft, or a new form of it.
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suggestion to communicate with FBI looks confusing because nothing in the question appears to indicate that it's about US. Please consider editing to clarify this. See also: How to Answer
– gnat
yesterday
Thank you for the suggestion on clarity, @gnat. I have implemented it.
– CA Trevillian
yesterday
add a comment |
suggestion to communicate with FBI looks confusing because nothing in the question appears to indicate that it's about US. Please consider editing to clarify this. See also: How to Answer
– gnat
yesterday
Thank you for the suggestion on clarity, @gnat. I have implemented it.
– CA Trevillian
yesterday
suggestion to communicate with FBI looks confusing because nothing in the question appears to indicate that it's about US. Please consider editing to clarify this. See also: How to Answer
– gnat
yesterday
suggestion to communicate with FBI looks confusing because nothing in the question appears to indicate that it's about US. Please consider editing to clarify this. See also: How to Answer
– gnat
yesterday
Thank you for the suggestion on clarity, @gnat. I have implemented it.
– CA Trevillian
yesterday
Thank you for the suggestion on clarity, @gnat. I have implemented it.
– CA Trevillian
yesterday
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@Brandin please don't answer in comments, post an answer instead :)
– DarkCygnus
Apr 4 at 18:06
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I think often on this site, when OPs use the literal word "legal", they actually just mean "proper". Questions like "Is it legal for X to do Y?" really usually just mean "Should X do Y?" Just another confusing aspect of these sites.
– Fattie
Apr 4 at 22:48
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@Tas My past employer kept my email inbox and assigned it to someone else in the company and highly upvoted: My ex-employer is sending emails to customers in my name
– gnat
Apr 5 at 6:17
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Needs a location: a number of answers are claiming that the company owns the e-mail, therefor it can read/use it, which is simply not true in at least parts of the EU.
– DonFusili
Apr 5 at 8:04
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This is easy as having an email Natasha.Surname@emailprovider.com. You shouldn't create accounts with company-owned emails
– L_Church
Apr 5 at 11:53