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A category-like structure without composition?


Is there a free digraph associated to a graph?Can the inner structure of an object be systematically deduced from its position in the category?Do non-associative objects have a natural notion of representation?Why does Hom need an identity in the definition of the category?Sets = structured sets without structureWhat is the composition in SesquiAlg?What kind of category is a cyclically ordered set?random category theoryA model category of abelian categories?Cartesian liftings in double categories













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Is there a name for the 'category-like' structure which satisfies the axioms for a category except for composition, i.e. identities exist for every object, if $fin Hom(A,B)$ and $g in Hom(B,C)$ then $gcirc f$ may not exist in $Hom(A,C)$, but when the relevant compositions do exist, then composition is associative. 'Category-like' structures derived from directed graphs with at most one edge in each direction, where the vertices are the objects and the edges are the morphisms, provide plentiful examples, as do (equivalently) not-necessarily-transitive relations on a set $X$. Could anyone provide references which discuss this from a categorical perspective? Thanks in advance!










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Is there a name for the 'category-like' structure which satisfies the axioms for a category except for composition, i.e. identities exist for every object, if $fin Hom(A,B)$ and $g in Hom(B,C)$ then $gcirc f$ may not exist in $Hom(A,C)$, but when the relevant compositions do exist, then composition is associative. 'Category-like' structures derived from directed graphs with at most one edge in each direction, where the vertices are the objects and the edges are the morphisms, provide plentiful examples, as do (equivalently) not-necessarily-transitive relations on a set $X$. Could anyone provide references which discuss this from a categorical perspective? Thanks in advance!










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    Er -- I should clarify that 2-Segal spaces are a bit more general -- in addition to allowing composition to be undefined, they also allow composition to be multiply-defined. So they're like a category enriched in spans rather than pointed sets.
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    There's an $infty$-categorical version: 2-Segal spaces in the sense of Dyckerhoff-Kapranov
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    Er -- I should clarify that 2-Segal spaces are a bit more general -- in addition to allowing composition to be undefined, they also allow composition to be multiply-defined. So they're like a category enriched in spans rather than pointed sets.
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    Shouldn't this be equivalent to a category enriched over pointed sets?
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    There's an $infty$-categorical version: 2-Segal spaces in the sense of Dyckerhoff-Kapranov
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    – Tim Campion
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    Er -- I should clarify that 2-Segal spaces are a bit more general -- in addition to allowing composition to be undefined, they also allow composition to be multiply-defined. So they're like a category enriched in spans rather than pointed sets.
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– Tim Campion
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Er -- I should clarify that 2-Segal spaces are a bit more general -- in addition to allowing composition to be undefined, they also allow composition to be multiply-defined. So they're like a category enriched in spans rather than pointed sets.
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As Qiaochu says, one way to talk about categories with partially defined composition is to talk about categories enriched over the monoidal category $Par$ of sets and partial functions with the cartesian product (that is, the cartesian product in $Set$, which is not the cartesian product in $Par$). Since $Par$ is equivalent to the category of pointed sets with its monoidal smash product, where the basepoint in a pointed set is a formal way to represent "not defined", it is equivalent to talk about categories enriched over the latter.



A different notion of "category with partially defined composition" is called a paracategory. This has $n$-ary partial composition functions for all $n$, which are associative insofar as defined in an "unbiased" way. It was apparently defined by Peter Freyd in unpublished work, and studied further by Hermida and Mateus; see the references at the link.






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      I've long been in favor of replacing "category" with "monoidoid" (in analogy to "group" $to$ "groupoid"). If we combine this with Jørgen's idea then the subject of the above question would be called a "monoidoidoid", which makes this nomenclature reform proposal all the more attractive. The only downside I see is that there are relatively few opportunities to refer to monoidoidoids. Perhaps we could start calling monoidoids (i.e. categories) "special monoidoidoids", in which composition just happens to be always defined.
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      @KevinWalker I could certainly get behind "mplete". Mpleteness is more basic, IMHO, than completeness. I'm reminded of a seminar talk years ago in which Noah Snyder and I were sitting next to each other in the back row. The speaker said that the next result as a "co-corollary", and explained that that meant that the Theorem followed immediately from it. Noah and I turned to each other and simultaneously said "rollary".
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      @TheoJohnson-Freyd: It's an interesting topic. I think finite completeness is far more basic than finite mpleteness, due to its extremely tight connection with logic. I would agree with you for the case of small limits/colimits, but the more I reflect on it, the more I think that's an expression of the habit of approaching the infinite via "synthezising" things as a filtered colimit of understandable pieces rather than "analyzing" them as a cofiltered limit of partial information.
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    As Qiaochu says, one way to talk about categories with partially defined composition is to talk about categories enriched over the monoidal category $Par$ of sets and partial functions with the cartesian product (that is, the cartesian product in $Set$, which is not the cartesian product in $Par$). Since $Par$ is equivalent to the category of pointed sets with its monoidal smash product, where the basepoint in a pointed set is a formal way to represent "not defined", it is equivalent to talk about categories enriched over the latter.



    A different notion of "category with partially defined composition" is called a paracategory. This has $n$-ary partial composition functions for all $n$, which are associative insofar as defined in an "unbiased" way. It was apparently defined by Peter Freyd in unpublished work, and studied further by Hermida and Mateus; see the references at the link.






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      As Qiaochu says, one way to talk about categories with partially defined composition is to talk about categories enriched over the monoidal category $Par$ of sets and partial functions with the cartesian product (that is, the cartesian product in $Set$, which is not the cartesian product in $Par$). Since $Par$ is equivalent to the category of pointed sets with its monoidal smash product, where the basepoint in a pointed set is a formal way to represent "not defined", it is equivalent to talk about categories enriched over the latter.



      A different notion of "category with partially defined composition" is called a paracategory. This has $n$-ary partial composition functions for all $n$, which are associative insofar as defined in an "unbiased" way. It was apparently defined by Peter Freyd in unpublished work, and studied further by Hermida and Mateus; see the references at the link.






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        As Qiaochu says, one way to talk about categories with partially defined composition is to talk about categories enriched over the monoidal category $Par$ of sets and partial functions with the cartesian product (that is, the cartesian product in $Set$, which is not the cartesian product in $Par$). Since $Par$ is equivalent to the category of pointed sets with its monoidal smash product, where the basepoint in a pointed set is a formal way to represent "not defined", it is equivalent to talk about categories enriched over the latter.



        A different notion of "category with partially defined composition" is called a paracategory. This has $n$-ary partial composition functions for all $n$, which are associative insofar as defined in an "unbiased" way. It was apparently defined by Peter Freyd in unpublished work, and studied further by Hermida and Mateus; see the references at the link.






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        As Qiaochu says, one way to talk about categories with partially defined composition is to talk about categories enriched over the monoidal category $Par$ of sets and partial functions with the cartesian product (that is, the cartesian product in $Set$, which is not the cartesian product in $Par$). Since $Par$ is equivalent to the category of pointed sets with its monoidal smash product, where the basepoint in a pointed set is a formal way to represent "not defined", it is equivalent to talk about categories enriched over the latter.



        A different notion of "category with partially defined composition" is called a paracategory. This has $n$-ary partial composition functions for all $n$, which are associative insofar as defined in an "unbiased" way. It was apparently defined by Peter Freyd in unpublished work, and studied further by Hermida and Mateus; see the references at the link.







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              I've long been in favor of replacing "category" with "monoidoid" (in analogy to "group" $to$ "groupoid"). If we combine this with Jørgen's idea then the subject of the above question would be called a "monoidoidoid", which makes this nomenclature reform proposal all the more attractive. The only downside I see is that there are relatively few opportunities to refer to monoidoidoids. Perhaps we could start calling monoidoids (i.e. categories) "special monoidoidoids", in which composition just happens to be always defined.
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              @KevinWalker I could certainly get behind "mplete". Mpleteness is more basic, IMHO, than completeness. I'm reminded of a seminar talk years ago in which Noah Snyder and I were sitting next to each other in the back row. The speaker said that the next result as a "co-corollary", and explained that that meant that the Theorem followed immediately from it. Noah and I turned to each other and simultaneously said "rollary".
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              @TheoJohnson-Freyd: It's an interesting topic. I think finite completeness is far more basic than finite mpleteness, due to its extremely tight connection with logic. I would agree with you for the case of small limits/colimits, but the more I reflect on it, the more I think that's an expression of the habit of approaching the infinite via "synthezising" things as a filtered colimit of understandable pieces rather than "analyzing" them as a cofiltered limit of partial information.
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              I've long been in favor of replacing "category" with "monoidoid" (in analogy to "group" $to$ "groupoid"). If we combine this with Jørgen's idea then the subject of the above question would be called a "monoidoidoid", which makes this nomenclature reform proposal all the more attractive. The only downside I see is that there are relatively few opportunities to refer to monoidoidoids. Perhaps we could start calling monoidoids (i.e. categories) "special monoidoidoids", in which composition just happens to be always defined.
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              I also think we should give our fingers a rest and just write "mplete" instead of "cocomplete".
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              @Dan Petersen Thanks for the correction.
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              @KevinWalker I could certainly get behind "mplete". Mpleteness is more basic, IMHO, than completeness. I'm reminded of a seminar talk years ago in which Noah Snyder and I were sitting next to each other in the back row. The speaker said that the next result as a "co-corollary", and explained that that meant that the Theorem followed immediately from it. Noah and I turned to each other and simultaneously said "rollary".
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              @TheoJohnson-Freyd: It's an interesting topic. I think finite completeness is far more basic than finite mpleteness, due to its extremely tight connection with logic. I would agree with you for the case of small limits/colimits, but the more I reflect on it, the more I think that's an expression of the habit of approaching the infinite via "synthezising" things as a filtered colimit of understandable pieces rather than "analyzing" them as a cofiltered limit of partial information.
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              I've long been in favor of replacing "category" with "monoidoid" (in analogy to "group" $to$ "groupoid"). If we combine this with Jørgen's idea then the subject of the above question would be called a "monoidoidoid", which makes this nomenclature reform proposal all the more attractive. The only downside I see is that there are relatively few opportunities to refer to monoidoidoids. Perhaps we could start calling monoidoids (i.e. categories) "special monoidoidoids", in which composition just happens to be always defined.
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              @Dan Petersen Thanks for the correction.
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              @KevinWalker I could certainly get behind "mplete". Mpleteness is more basic, IMHO, than completeness. I'm reminded of a seminar talk years ago in which Noah Snyder and I were sitting next to each other in the back row. The speaker said that the next result as a "co-corollary", and explained that that meant that the Theorem followed immediately from it. Noah and I turned to each other and simultaneously said "rollary".
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              @TheoJohnson-Freyd: It's an interesting topic. I think finite completeness is far more basic than finite mpleteness, due to its extremely tight connection with logic. I would agree with you for the case of small limits/colimits, but the more I reflect on it, the more I think that's an expression of the habit of approaching the infinite via "synthezising" things as a filtered colimit of understandable pieces rather than "analyzing" them as a cofiltered limit of partial information.
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              I've long been in favor of replacing "category" with "monoidoid" (in analogy to "group" $to$ "groupoid"). If we combine this with Jørgen's idea then the subject of the above question would be called a "monoidoidoid", which makes this nomenclature reform proposal all the more attractive. The only downside I see is that there are relatively few opportunities to refer to monoidoidoids. Perhaps we could start calling monoidoids (i.e. categories) "special monoidoidoids", in which composition just happens to be always defined.
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              I also think we should give our fingers a rest and just write "mplete" instead of "cocomplete".
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              @Dan Petersen Thanks for the correction.
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              @KevinWalker I could certainly get behind "mplete". Mpleteness is more basic, IMHO, than completeness. I'm reminded of a seminar talk years ago in which Noah Snyder and I were sitting next to each other in the back row. The speaker said that the next result as a "co-corollary", and explained that that meant that the Theorem followed immediately from it. Noah and I turned to each other and simultaneously said "rollary".
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              @TheoJohnson-Freyd: It's an interesting topic. I think finite completeness is far more basic than finite mpleteness, due to its extremely tight connection with logic. I would agree with you for the case of small limits/colimits, but the more I reflect on it, the more I think that's an expression of the habit of approaching the infinite via "synthezising" things as a filtered colimit of understandable pieces rather than "analyzing" them as a cofiltered limit of partial information.
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            I've long been in favor of replacing "category" with "monoidoid" (in analogy to "group" $to$ "groupoid"). If we combine this with Jørgen's idea then the subject of the above question would be called a "monoidoidoid", which makes this nomenclature reform proposal all the more attractive. The only downside I see is that there are relatively few opportunities to refer to monoidoidoids. Perhaps we could start calling monoidoids (i.e. categories) "special monoidoidoids", in which composition just happens to be always defined.
            $endgroup$
            – Kevin Walker
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            $begingroup$
            I've long been in favor of replacing "category" with "monoidoid" (in analogy to "group" $to$ "groupoid"). If we combine this with Jørgen's idea then the subject of the above question would be called a "monoidoidoid", which makes this nomenclature reform proposal all the more attractive. The only downside I see is that there are relatively few opportunities to refer to monoidoidoids. Perhaps we could start calling monoidoids (i.e. categories) "special monoidoidoids", in which composition just happens to be always defined.
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            I also think we should give our fingers a rest and just write "mplete" instead of "cocomplete".
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            I also think we should give our fingers a rest and just write "mplete" instead of "cocomplete".
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            @Dan Petersen Thanks for the correction.
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            @Dan Petersen Thanks for the correction.
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            @KevinWalker I could certainly get behind "mplete". Mpleteness is more basic, IMHO, than completeness. I'm reminded of a seminar talk years ago in which Noah Snyder and I were sitting next to each other in the back row. The speaker said that the next result as a "co-corollary", and explained that that meant that the Theorem followed immediately from it. Noah and I turned to each other and simultaneously said "rollary".
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            Apr 5 at 2:42




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            @KevinWalker I could certainly get behind "mplete". Mpleteness is more basic, IMHO, than completeness. I'm reminded of a seminar talk years ago in which Noah Snyder and I were sitting next to each other in the back row. The speaker said that the next result as a "co-corollary", and explained that that meant that the Theorem followed immediately from it. Noah and I turned to each other and simultaneously said "rollary".
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            – Theo Johnson-Freyd
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            @TheoJohnson-Freyd: It's an interesting topic. I think finite completeness is far more basic than finite mpleteness, due to its extremely tight connection with logic. I would agree with you for the case of small limits/colimits, but the more I reflect on it, the more I think that's an expression of the habit of approaching the infinite via "synthezising" things as a filtered colimit of understandable pieces rather than "analyzing" them as a cofiltered limit of partial information.
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            – Hurkyl
            Apr 5 at 8:44





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            @TheoJohnson-Freyd: It's an interesting topic. I think finite completeness is far more basic than finite mpleteness, due to its extremely tight connection with logic. I would agree with you for the case of small limits/colimits, but the more I reflect on it, the more I think that's an expression of the habit of approaching the infinite via "synthezising" things as a filtered colimit of understandable pieces rather than "analyzing" them as a cofiltered limit of partial information.
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            Apr 5 at 8:44


















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